[ebb tide]

Ping

[Oystir]

St. Pope John XXIII, St Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul 1, St John Paul II, Pope Benedict all got it wrong, eh?

[amihow]

It is a scandal for people to condemn the documents of V2 at the same time fail to disclose the way the Truth of the Catholic faith grows without contradiction.

The concept of the Development of Doctrine is well known in the Church, but I do not see it spoken of. Simply put Doctrine can grow and often does, with new insights which do not contradict prior authentic teachings.

Briefly, without denying that the whole truth lies in the Catholic Church, it is obvious that some of those truths are also found in other Churches.

Therefore, many non Catholics, sincerely seeking the whole truth possess some of the truths. With a new application of God’s already known mercy and justice, it was logical to teach that people who sincerely seek the whole truth, but as yet, through no fault of their own, only possess some hints of truths can be saved.

Please do not be silent about these developments and call them errors. They are not errors.

[MurphsLaw]

You Americans have a saying don't you...

Love it - or Leave it ?

[MurphsLaw]

Guadium:
"This is why the first and greatest commandment is love of God and of neighbor."

Hold on a second. The first and greatest commandment is not love of God and of neighbor. The first and greatest commandment is love of God.

ebb, ebb, ebb... you picked on the wrong verse buddy....lol

Lets go to the tape:

+++ Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.
38 This is the greatest and the first commandment.
39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these TWO commandments DEPENDETH THE WHOLE law and the prophets.

So is it semantics keeping you from God? OR does your religious sect Believe that you can get to Heaven by just obeying ONE of those Commandments - Love God- sorry neighbor??
OR do you then think the Church is saying just love your neighbor- you don't need to love God? What a hoot that sermon would be...
In Christianity, those commandments are alike, and inseparably the whole - in these verses you are trying to distort for your own pleasure !!!
Work of the devil ebb !!! The diabulous !!!

So tell me again:::

HOW do the Vatican 2 documents keep YOU from Loving God with all YOUR heart, etc.?
HOW do the Vatican 2 documents keep YOU from willing the best for YOUR neighbor?
HOW do the Vatican 2 documents keep YOU from becoming the best Catholic version of YOURSELF you know you should be?