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To: ebb tide

Well, this is not all that earth-shattering or new. The Church long ago accepted homosexuality as a legitimate thing. There are two ways to look at this latest development. By embracing civil unions, the Pope and the Church are simultaneously denying gay marriage as a legitimate thing. Civil unions are a legal matter, not a theological one.


14 posted on 09/18/2021 8:21:48 AM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine )
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To: MrChips

So you’re OK with civil legalization of sodomy?

How about the legalization of infanticide?


19 posted on 09/18/2021 8:53:10 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MrChips
CS Lewis rightly saw the need for a hard distinction between CHRISTIAN marriage and civil secular marriage. Albeit it was 80 years ago - when even just a debate over divorce became a flash point.
Back then, he wondered if it should be that Christian divorce laws be forced upon a non-believing secular citizenry...
Obviously not...and so proposed a strong distinction between the two... and had he lived today he would also still advocate necessity for that strict separation of what the SACRAMENTAL MARRIAGE on the Altar means- as opposed to a legal civil agreement between two sides- that can be broken on a whim- whenever one wants another partner- which in our day now also includes homosexual and other alternative forms of a "union" that can be legislated secular, but certainly NOT as Christian...as even THIS Pope continues to remind.

SEPARATE- and certainly NOT EQUAL
22 posted on 09/18/2021 9:46:23 AM PDT by MurphsLaw ("Wise Men today.... still Find Him with His Mother")
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Well, this is not all that earth-shattering or new. The Church long ago accepted homosexuality as a legitimate thing.

That's a lie.

31 posted on 09/18/2021 5:50:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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