Only you follow the anti-christ, whore of Babylon, also called your religion's prophetess -- Ellen G White
Posted on 09/04/2021 2:04:06 AM PDT by Cronos
With my teeth and lack thereof, I cannot eat corn off the cob. And I grew some once but raccoons devoured all the stalks!
The Holy Spirit is who inspired the writings of the entire Bible and the book of Genesis was not the cumulative remembrances of the Patriarchs but the exact words God intended for ALL to know concerning the creation of the world and His relationship with mankind from the start. Your pasted article's author can only wish that the Sabbath was "familiarly mentioned among his posterity, as an existing institution", but it was not mentioned at all as a requirement until Moses and Mt. Sinai. If it was such a major condition of having a right relationship with God, it certainly would have been clearly taught starting with Adam. Conjecture is not proof. Mr. Andrew's argument is without merit.
But every Lord’s day . . . gather yourselves together and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one that is at variance with his fellow come together with you until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned (14 [A.D. 70]).
Letter of Barnabas
Wherefore, also, we keep the eighth day [a reference to Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead. And when He had manifested Himself, He ascended into the heavens (15 [A.D. 74]).
Ignatius of Antioch
[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e., Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).
Justin Martyr
On the day called Sunday all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen (First Apology 67 [A.D. 151]).
The Didascalia
The apostles further appointed; On the first day of the week let there be service, and the reading of the holy scriptures, and the oblation [sacrifice of the Mass], because on the first day of the week [Sunday] our Lord rose from the place of the dead, and on the first day of the week he arose upon the world, and on the first day of the week he ascended up to heaven, and on the first day of the week he will appear at last with the angels of heaven (Didascalia 2 [A.D. 225]).
Victorinus
The sixth day [Friday] is called parasceve, that is to say, the preparation of the kingdom. . . . On this day also, on account of the passion of the Lord Jesus Christ, we make either a station to God or a fast. On the seventh day he rested from all his works, and blessed it, and sanctified it. On the former day we are accustomed to fast rigorously, that on the Lord’s Day we may go forth to our bread with giving of thanks. Let the parasceve become a rigorous fast, lest we should appear to observe any Sabbath with the Jews . . . which Sabbath he [Christ] in his body abolished (The Creation of the World [A.D. 300]).
Eusebius
They [the early saints of the Old Testament] did not care about circumcision of the body, neither do we [Christians]. They did not care about observing Sabbaths, nor do we. They did not avoid certain kinds of food, neither did they regard the other distinctions which Moses first delivered to their posterity to be observed as symbols; nor do Christians of the present day do such things (Church History 1:4:8 [A.D. 325]).
[T]he day of his [Christ’s] light . . . was the day of his resurrection from the dead, which they say, as being the one and only truly holy day and the Lord’s day, is better than any number of days as we ordinarily understand them, and better than the days set apart by the Mosaic Law for feasts, new moons, and Sabbaths, which the Apostle [Paul] teaches are the shadow of days and not days in reality (Proof of the Gospel 4:16:186 [A.D. 319]).
Athanasius
The Sabbath was the end of the first creation, the Lord’s day was the beginning of the second, in which he renewed and restored the old in the same way as he prescribed that they should formerly observe the Sabbath as a memorial of the end of the first things, so we honor the Lord’s day as being the memorial of the new creation (On Sabbath and Circumcision 3 [A.D. 345]).
Cyril of Jerusalem
Fall not away either into the sect of the Samaritans or into Judaism, for Jesus Christ has ransomed you. Stand aloof from all observance of Sabbaths and from calling indifferent meats common or unclean (Catechetical Lectures 4:37 [A.D. 350]).
John Chrysostom
When he said, “You shall not kill” . . . he did not add “because murder is a wicked thing.” The reason was that conscience had taught this beforehand, and he speaks thus, as to those who know and understand the point. Wherefore when he speaks to us of another commandment, not known to us by the dictate of conscience, he not only prohibits, but adds the reason. When, for instance, he gave commandment concerning the Sabbath — “On the seventh day you shall do no work”— he subjoined also the reason for this cessation. What was this? “Because on the seventh day God rested from all his works which he had begun to make” [Ex. 20:10]. And again: “Because you were a servant in the land of Egypt” [Deut. 21:18]. For what purpose then, I ask, did he add a reason respecting the Sabbath, but did no such thing in regard to murder? Because this commandment was not one of the leading ones. It was not one of those which were accurately defined of our conscience, but a kind of partial and temporary one, and for this reason it was abolished afterward. But those which are necessary and uphold our life are the following: ‘”You shall not kill… You shall not commit adultery… You shall not steal.” On this account he adds no reason in this case, nor enters into any instruction on the matter, but is content with the bare prohibition (Homilies on the Statues 12:9 [A.D. 387]).
You have put on Christ, you have become a member of the Lord and been enrolled in the heavenly city, and you still grovel in the Law [of Moses]? How is it possible for you to obtain the kingdom? Listen to Paul’s words, that the observance of the Law overthrows the gospel, and learn, if you will, how this comes to pass, and tremble, and shun this pitfall. Why do you keep the Sabbath and fast with the Jews? (Homilies on Galatians 2:17 [A.D. 395]).
Matthew 7:15Beware of false prophets (teachers). They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Acts 20:29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them.
That is EXACTLY what happened with the deaths of the apostles (and most notably, Paul). Error came into the church very quickly and today it has affected nearly all modern Christianity.
No matter what ANYONE says, apart from the bible, IT MUST BE REJECTED AS TRADITION. Obviously many here could care less, and refuse to follow God's clear moral law. THAT IS LAWLESSNESS, no matter how much they protest at that label. If you aren't Catholic, you might as well be. You follow Tradition. There is ZERO scriptural authority for keeping Sunday sacred and ABOLISHING/casting aside/ignoring the 7th-day-Sabbath. None whatsoever. To say there is, is LAWLESSNESS. Jesus couldn't have been more clear in Matthew 5:17-19.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. YOU preach a different gospel.
And, NOTHING CAN BE ADDED TO OR TAKEN AWAY from the new Covenant, as clearly outlined by Paul.
The Last Will and Testament of Jesus Christ (You should all pay close attention to this...)
When did the New Covenant go into effect and who is the mediator?
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he [Jesus] is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of [His] death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
The New Covenant came into effect with the sacrifice, shedding of blood, and death of the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. .
Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
A covenant, testament or will cannot be changed by anyone once the testator has died. Paul in Hebrews 9 is saying that the New Covenant is the last will and testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and as such it is not subject to alteration or annulment of its terms (Gal 3:15). The terms of the New Covenant, in effect from the moment of the death of Jesus, and not subject to change by anyone, are the Ten Commandments of God. The Ark of the Covenant / Ark of the Testimony contained the substance or terms of both covenants, the Ten Commandments. It is impossible that the Sabbath commandment could be changed, that Sunday could replace the Sabbath in the New Covenant, after the death of Jesus on the cross! To attempt to change the terms of a last will or testament after the death of the testator is illegal and fraudulent in any court of law.
Consider this. The purpose of a last will and testament is to reveal the names of those who will inherit. The last will and testament of Jesus Christ therefore includes a list of beneficiaries or inheritors. What do they inherit? Eternal life and the kingdom of God. This list or testament is also called the Lamb's book of life! (Phil 4:3, Rev 3:5, Rev 13:8, Rev 17:8)
Now think about this. When in scripture is the last will and testament of Jesus Christ opened and read, so that the inheritors can all be identified? Here is the clue. In the ancient Roman world, a will (a Praetorian Testament) was sealed with the seals of seven witnesses to attest to the validity of the will. See Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities, edited By William Smith, LL. D., Second Edition, Boston, Little, Brown, & Company, 1870, entry on Testamentum, pg. 1117. A praetor was a Roman magistrate, a judge. When Jesus was examined by Pilate this was done in the praetorium or judgment hall (John 18:28,33; 19:9), which is also where He was mocked and given a crown of thorns (Matt 27:27; Mark 15:16).
Yes! The last will and testament of Jesus Christ is the scroll with seven seals in Revelation 5:1 - 8:1! It could only be opened by the mediator of the New Covenant, Jesus Christ Himself. While it is being read, the investigative judgment is still underway. When the reading of the will concludes, probation for humanity comes to an end because all those who will inherit have been identified.
The cup of the Lord's supper is an acceptance of this New Covenant.
Mat 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
So when you partake of communion, you are expressing faith in Jesus Christ as your saviour, an acceptance of the New Covenant, to let God write His law in your heart and mind (Heb 10:16). By doing so, you are added to the list of beneficiaries in the last will and testament of Jesus Christ, the Lamb's Book of Life. You might just say we are sealed by this New Covenant as a child of God.
Your Sunday Gospel Tradition is from none other than Satan. You have fallen in the trap. He (Satan) has convinced you that God's law is of none effect. You are LAWLESS.
Did the Apostles Abandon The Sabbath And Keep Sunday Instead To Honor The Resurrection? (Nope!)
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/firstday.htm
Did the Apostles Abandon The Sabbath And Keep Sunday Instead To Honor The Resurrection? (Nope!)
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/firstday.htm
” the 7th-day-Sabbath predates sin”
Sabbath was inaugurated for people as in Exodus 16 - so Abraham etc. before Moses, Abraham, Isaac etc. didn’t keep Sabbath.
Paul says in Colossians 2: 12 that you were “12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.” The salvation process renders the law irrelevant…“4 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.” This does not mean we can do whatever we want.
And here is the direct answer to the above question, “16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ” (Colossians 2: 16 – 17). In other words, neither observing the Sabbath nor tithing nor going to church regularly means anything. What matters is being anchored in Christ.
What does that mean? It goes back to how we mature into our identity. As GOD’s “cubs” we need to walk the life of practicing His ways. The only way to do that is to follow Christ. Following Christ means building an intimate relationship with the Father through Him and the Holy Spirit.
Only you follow the anti-christ, whore of Babylon, also called your religion's prophetess -- Ellen G White
1. the chapters tell us that Christians are no longer under the law to keep the Sabbath or kosher
2. Christians are those who believe that Jesus is Lord, God and Savior -- you Adventists believe that Jesus is the angel Michael, so you don't qualify.
And Eze 20 starts with 3 Son of man, speak unto the elders of Israel, -- again, not all of the descendants of Abraham - who are we Christians.
He’s a Seventh Day Adventist. He believes that Jesus is the angel Michael (just like the sister cult, the Jehovah’s Witnesses believe). What more do you expect?
Revelation 1:10
I was caught up in spirit on the Lord’s day and heard behind me a voice as loud as a trumpet,
Christians from Apostolic times worshipped the Lord on the Lord's day - Deis Dominica.
Only with your 19th century Millerite philosophy the Seventh Day Adventists (like your sister Millerite cult, the Jehovah's witnesses) did people object to that.
the Apostles worshipped Jesus (Who is GOD, no matter what you Adventists say to oppose that) on the first day of the week - Deis Dominica - which is expressly differentiated from the Sabbath day (the last day of the week)
1 Cor 10:11. Those who lived according to the old order of things have come to a new hope, no longer keeping the sabbath, but the Lord's Day, in which our life is blessed by him and by his death
As Ignatius of Antioch wrote Those who were brought up in the ancient order of things [i.e. the rabbinical Jews] have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death
Your aloha.net writer (the same guy who believes Jesus is an angel) errs
Phillie - have you never heard of the Ancient Church of the East, the Assyrian Church - based in Ctesiphon-Babylon and separated from the western churches around 240 AD? Or the Marthomite church, founded by St Thomas circa 52 AD and based in Kerala?
Both of those had sacredness on the first day of the week
and both of these, along with the Copts, Ethiopians, Armenians etc. all kept the first Day as sacred
Phillie - have you never heard of....
I go by the word of God, not tradition. The new covenant was sealed by the blood of Jesus Christ. IT CANNOT BE ALTERED. And that goes double for His law.
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The Sabbath was made for man (mankind) and the whole human race at that time was Adam and Eve. Only a lawbreaking traditionalist would think that the great men and women of the bible didn't keep and obey God's law.
**The declaration, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it," is not indeed a commandment for the observance of that day; but it is the record that such a precept was given to Adam. 11 For how could the Creator "set apart to a holy use" the day of his rest, when those who were to use the day knew nothing of his will in the case?
**Did God sanctify the Sabbath in the wilderness of Sin? There is no intimation of such fact. On the contrary, it is mentioned at that time as something already set apart of God. On the sixth day Moses said, "To-morrow is the rest of the holy Sabbath unto the Lord." 20 Surely this is not the act of instituting the Sabbath, but the familiar mention of an existing fact. We pass on to Mount Sinai. Did God sanctify the Sabbath when he spoke the ten commandments? No one claims that he did. It is admitted by all that Moses spoke of it familiarly the previous month.21 Does the Lord at Sinai speak of the sanctification of the Sabbath? He does; but in the very language of Genesis he goes back for the sanctification of the Sabbath, not to the wilderness of Sin, but to the creation of the world.22 We ask those who hold the theory under examination, this question: If the Sabbath was not sanctified at creation, but was sanctified in the wilderness of Sin, why does the narrative in each instance23 record the sanctification of the Sabbath at creation and omit all mention of such fact in the wilderness of Sin? Nay, why does the record of events in the wilderness of Sin, show that the holy Sabbath was at that time already in existence? In a word, How can a theory subversive of all the facts in the record, be maintained as the truth of God?
**Nay, Cronie. Nay. It all goes back to Genesis and the creation week.
I’m surprised that you can’t differentiate between the CEREMONIAL law and the MORAL law. That is a critical error that people like BB and MHG make. I’m surprised that you make it too.
You have a short memory. Billy says that the RCC is the biggest cult of them all. LOL!
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