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Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Says Belief Has ‘Vanished’ in Ireland
The Irish Times ^ | 8/16/21 | Patsy McGarry

Posted on 08/16/2021 7:49:59 PM PDT by marshmallow

Reduced numbers may afford an opportunity ‘to reimagine the institutional Church’

Evidence of Christian belief in Ireland today “has for all intents and purposes vanished,” Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Dermot Farrell has said. This “underlying crisis of faith” was “particularly acute among the younger generations,” he said.

“Public commentary in the media in Ireland has not been positive in its understanding of the Church and its need for vocations, and for public support of those trying to preach the Gospel,” he said.

Archbishop Farrell made the comments in an interview with the 2021 edition of ‘Síolta’, the annual journal of the national seminary at St Patrick’s College, Maynooth.

“The challenges facing me are pretty clear. We have an ageing clergy and very few vocations to the diocesan priesthood or religious life. There is a major decline in the number of people who actively practice and live their faith.

“Faith needs ritual, embodiment. One must see in people how faith is lived. Today the visibility of faith has for all intents and purposes vanished. I am also dealing with the legacy of sexual abuse scandals which have damaged the Church’s credibility. Since finance is a function of numbers, financial issues will arise which will be accelerated by the global pandemic and its aftermath,” he said.

“The current model of the Church is unsustainable,” he said. In Dublin there was need “for an effective programme of catechetics throughout the diocese to add to and, eventually, replace the current teaching of faith to the young. With the gradual decline of family socialisation in religion, the role of the qualified catechist will be essential. In my opinion, the handing on of the Faith to the young is one of the most serious challenges facing our Church today.”

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1 posted on 08/16/2021 7:49:59 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

You don’t take time to teach the next generation and just assume they will inherit your values, that’s what happens. Just look at the difference in the vote in just the span of a generation on the abortion issue.


2 posted on 08/16/2021 7:57:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: marshmallow
Two words:

EUROPEAN UNION


3 posted on 08/16/2021 7:57:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: marshmallow

The Church will go through a Phoenix event and be rejuvenated. It’s going to be difficult in the meantime, and worse before it gets better.


4 posted on 08/16/2021 7:58:13 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: marshmallow

“Faith needs ritual,
***No, it does not. They should start right there.


5 posted on 08/16/2021 7:58:33 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: marshmallow
CHURCH ATTENDENCE MAYBE, BUT NOT BELIEF

The Catholic denomination has shot itself in the foot so many times, it looks like that Monty Python skit.

6 posted on 08/16/2021 7:59:20 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Three more words:

Second Vatican Council.


7 posted on 08/16/2021 8:00:15 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: marshmallow

Maybe the Church should un-gay itself. Stop teaching/preaching a bunch of faggotry and feminism.


8 posted on 08/16/2021 8:01:54 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Blame Biden)
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To: marshmallow

The snakes have returned.


9 posted on 08/16/2021 8:02:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: DesertRhino

Cromwell rejoices in Hell.


10 posted on 08/16/2021 8:03:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Agree totally with your point.

I’ll add that it’s complicated. Some protestants view the RCC as a misleading agent. Not that the protestants aren’t religious, they just aren’t RCC.

I’m LCMS. I believe the admonition that the path is narrow. I’m not saying RCC is damned, just that “it’s complicated.”

The decline is real, and your theme of teaching (often by example) the next generation should resonate with all, even non-religious, who have some cling to moral or societal absolutes.

James Burnham remarked on all this in his late 1960’s “Suicide of the West” - and FWIW, this is a them that runs for all of human history.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 8:07:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: irishjuggler

Exactly, Irishjuggler - You know the Novus Ordo Mass has completely eliminated the Last Gospel from the rite?? No more John 1-14, completely gone ... unfathomable!


12 posted on 08/16/2021 8:10:25 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Phoenix event"

You do know that the Phoenix is associated with Paganism, Idol worship and Islamic mythology?

13 posted on 08/16/2021 8:11:31 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be ta.ken that's for sure.)
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To: Deaf Smith; SaxxonWoods
You do know that the Phoenix is associated with Paganism, Idol worship and Islamic mythology?

And so is Thursday, Mercury automobiles and the Dallas Cowboys. Just as we can use pagan fables to illustrate a point, we can use a pagan myth to illustrate a point. Pope St. Clement did in the 1st Century.
14 posted on 08/16/2021 8:28:47 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: marshmallow

Guess it will take a return of snakes to bring back faith to the people of St. Patrick.


15 posted on 08/16/2021 8:44:50 PM PDT by MHT
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To: marshmallow

They took the soup. Big time.


16 posted on 08/16/2021 8:52:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
They took the soup. Big time.

Yep.

17 posted on 08/16/2021 8:52:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Mrs. Doyle, “Would you be having a cup o’ tea, Father?”


18 posted on 08/17/2021 1:29:22 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: Dr. Sivana
“Just as we can use pagan fables to illustrate a point, we can use a pagan myth to illustrate a point. Pope St. Clement did in the 1st Century.”

Just as Paul used a pagan Greek temple to make a point when preaching the Gospel in Athens.

19 posted on 08/17/2021 5:47:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: knarf

The Church is not a denomination.


20 posted on 08/17/2021 10:14:19 AM PDT by Marchmain (have a nice day)
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