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Pale Percy Pessimist On America As Sodom.

Posted on 07/27/2021 4:11:13 PM PDT by JAG 5000

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1 posted on 07/27/2021 4:11:13 PM PDT by JAG 5000
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To: JAG 5000
Nice.

Maybe God is not going to destroy America.

Perhaps he is just chastising her at the moment.

I pray for God to heal our land.

2 posted on 07/27/2021 4:18:01 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Or calling out the faithful. Whom he loves, he chastises. Proverbs 3:12. The song says “God Bless America”. He has blessed America more than any nation on earth. Perhaps He is reminding us of that fact and expects us to turn back towards Him.


3 posted on 07/27/2021 4:24:38 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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Since “righteous” means to be without sin, that goes against the Bible, which says that there is nobody that does not sin except Christ (1 Kings 8:46, 2 Chronicles 6:36, Ecclesiastes 7:20, Psalm 14:3, Romans 3:12, et al).


4 posted on 07/27/2021 4:27:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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You do not understand what the word means. In John 1 it says this:

“do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. “


5 posted on 07/27/2021 4:33:32 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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That doesn’t contradict what the Bible says elsewhere, and you are truncating and taking 1 John 3:7 (rather than John 1, which would refer to the first chapter of the Gospel of John) out of context; verse 8 makes it clear that this is about Christ working in someone’s life, and as Matthew 24:13 makes plain, one must “endure to the end” to attain righteousness.


6 posted on 07/27/2021 4:37:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JAG 5000
1. It's hard not to be pessimistic with Biden in charge.

2. People want to avoid arrogance and complacency and that can look like pessimism. When we're confident we can ignore our weak points and not improve them. We also take on projects that are beyond our capacities.

7 posted on 07/27/2021 4:37:58 PM PDT by x
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To: silent majority rising

He is reminding us of that fact and expects us to turn back towards Him.
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I’d like to hear that from some elected official.

City, County, State, Fed - Congress, Senate, Court, or from the most pious Catholic Joe Biden.


8 posted on 07/27/2021 4:39:38 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Olog-hai

Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness.


9 posted on 07/27/2021 4:40:45 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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Genesis 15:6 makes it plain that his name was still Abram at the time. And that did not make him sinless; his righteousness had to be renewed many times after that, as did his belief.


10 posted on 07/27/2021 4:45:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: JAG 5000

A related conversation. https://www.bitchute.com/video/KP6Jr5ZCk3p2/


11 posted on 07/27/2021 4:46:31 PM PDT by Pollard
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You do not understand what the word means when used. There are many verses in both Old and New Testaments that make is very clear someone who is righteous DOES NOT MEAN they were sinless from birth.


12 posted on 07/27/2021 4:47:32 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary

You’re fond of that phrase “You do not understand”. What the Bible says is not dependent on my understanding or lack thereof, happily, or your tendency to put words in my mouth.


13 posted on 07/27/2021 4:49:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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And you are fond of digger your hole deeper and deeper and deeper.

"Since “righteous” means to be without sin, that goes against the Bible, which says that there is nobody that does not sin except Christ ".

That's an absurd point to make for this article, when everyone (but you evidently) understands and uses the meaning of the word, as used, in this article, and dozens of times in the Bible in the same way.

14 posted on 07/27/2021 5:08:09 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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Ah, more ad hominem. That insecure in your stance?

In addition to all the verses I cited, Revelation 12:9 makes it plain that the devil “deceives the whole world”, and Jesus made multifarious warnings to His disciples to be on guard against the devil. I did not misunderstand what “righteous” means, with all due respect.
15 posted on 07/27/2021 5:22:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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And you dig the hole deeper again.

"Since “righteous” means to be without sin, that goes against the Bible,"

The word actually has a dozen or more meanings. You carry on about one meaning. You complain about someone putting words in your mouth but that is exactly what you did to the author. When he referred to the number of "righteous" in America, he was WAS NOT using your chosen meaning above. And it's obvious (except to you) which meaning(s) of the word he was using.

This is not Bible Science.

16 posted on 07/27/2021 5:40:30 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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I see only one general meaning for the Hebrew word “tsadaqah” and its derivatives, e.g. “tsaddiq”. Same applies to Greek cognate “dikaiosyne”. If you care to list the other meanings you refer to, please do so, but make sure you refer to the Biblical text.

Hebrews 12:1 warns us about “the sin which doth so easily beset us”, furthermore.


17 posted on 07/27/2021 6:08:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Well, I was quoting Paul and James.

But they are not here on FR.


18 posted on 07/27/2021 6:22:30 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Olog-hai
The author was referring to Genesis 23-26 and the Hebrew word for "righteous" tsaddiq means "just, lawful".

Websters: Just:
acting or being in conformity with what is morally upright or good

Brown-Driver-Briggs: adjective just, righteous
3 just, righteous, in conduct and character:
a. towards God Genesis 7:1; Genesis 18:23,24 (twice in verse); Genesis 18:25 (twice in verse); Genesis 18:26,28 (J) Genesis 20:4 (E), Habakkuk 2:4; Malachi 3:18

A good person, moral person, righteous person, just person, no one except you would claim those persons must be sinless to qualify for those adjectives.

Since “righteous” means to be without sin, that goes against the Bible, which says that there is nobody that does not sin except Christ

You started in ERROR. That's easy to do when you strain at a gnat in an attempt to show piousness.

19 posted on 07/27/2021 6:48:16 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: marktwain

Problem is, all the good stuff cited is past tense. America is not that nation anymore. God may not be ready to destroy America (I am not privy to His plans), but it cannot be denied that America is awash in sin.


20 posted on 07/27/2021 6:53:29 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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