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Daily Mass Gospel reflection - The Wheat and Weeds
Word on Fire Ministry ^ | July 27th, 2021 | Aux. Bishop R. Barron

Posted on 07/27/2021 10:18:19 AM PDT by MurphsLaw

SEVENTEENTH WEEK IN ORDINARY TIME

MATTHEW 13:36-43

Friends, in our Gospel today, Jesus explains the parable of the weeds among the wheat. God’s word creates the Church, the community of those who strive to build up the kingdom. But this Church is never absolutely pure and untrammeled, for God’s ways are opposed by a spiritual power, an enemy. His task is to sow weeds among the wheat—clandestinely, quietly, unobtrusively.

This sort of coming together of good and evil is to be expected. The Church will always be a place of saints and sinners, and the sinners will often look like saints. The enemy of the Church, who never rests, ensures it.

Vigilance in regards to evil is necessary in a fallen world, yet we must be wary of a zeal that, in its passion for setting things right, comes to believe that evil can be dealt with by destroying what is good.

In the midst of a fallen world, what is expected of us is that we live in hope that at the end, at harvest time, the Master will separate the good from the bad.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: hellisempty; heretic; homosexualist; pantsonfire
+++“Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
He said in reply, “He who sows good seed is the Son of Man,
the field is the world, the good seed the children of the
Kingdom.
The weeds are the children of the Evil One,
and the enemy who sows them is the Devil.
The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are
angels.
Just as weeds are collected and burned up with fire,
so will it be at the end of the age.
+++


1 posted on 07/27/2021 10:18:19 AM PDT by MurphsLaw
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To: MurphsLaw

Yet it is the heretic Barron’s hope that neither the wheat nor the weeds are burned.

What a hypocrite!


2 posted on 07/27/2021 11:16:47 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MurphsLaw

“...yet we must be wary of a zeal that, in its passion for setting things right, comes to believe that evil can be dealt with by destroying what is good.”

Who the heck believes that? Am I missing something?


3 posted on 07/27/2021 12:41:14 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: Marchmain

Barron, like Bergoglio, just enjoys hearing himself talk, even if it’s nonsense.


4 posted on 07/27/2021 2:09:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain
The oft-maligned Bishop is an ardent Thomist. You must first come to terms with evil being not only parasitic of good, but that it does not exist without good.
Remember how the parable begins, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like..." God allows the weeds to grow...the real question should be why?

The cockle in the parable was allowed to grow together with the wheat because uprooting it would certainly also destroy the wheat. Saint Thomas comments that the good can exist without the evil but the evil cannot exist without the good;
therefore, he says,
the Lord tolerates many who are evil so that the many who are good may not perish.

Furthermore, St. Thomas gives reasons why on account of the good members of the Church the evil ones should not be removed before the Judgment. One reason is that those who are evil provide the good with opportunities for the practice of virtue (Ebb), especially that of patience.
Secondly, it does happen that one who was once evil afterwards becomes good. If Saul who had persecuted the Church of God had been extirpated, the Church would not have had Paul, the Apostle to the
Gentiles.
Thirdly, there are many who seem to be evil but are in reality good. If these were destroyed, the good would be destroyed.

5 posted on 07/27/2021 7:14:30 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope.")
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To: MurphsLaw
The oft-maligned Bishop is an ardent Thomist.

That's absolute B.S.

St Thomas clearly expounds on Hell and the fact that there are souls there. The heretic Barron, however, hopes otherwise.

Barron is no more a Thomist than Biden is a devout Catholic.

6 posted on 07/27/2021 8:20:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; MurphsLaw

There aren’t many Thomists around anymore. Let’s take what we can get. Barron is a sound theologian.


7 posted on 07/27/2021 9:26:51 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: Marchmain
Barron is a sound theologian.

So much for your claim of being a traditional Catholic.

8 posted on 07/27/2021 9:31:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain
The Troubling Kinship of Bishop Barron and Father Martin

Bishop Robert Barron versus the Magisterium on Hell

9 posted on 07/27/2021 9:37:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Marchmain; MurphsLaw

Bishop Barron, like most conservative Catholic leaders, subscribes to the modern view that one must always be “positive” in how he presents the Faith—which, in practice, means ignoring the crisis in the Church. He’s not about to criticize other bishops like Cardinal Cupich when His Eminence defends the veneration of the Pachamama idol at the Vatican. He supports Archbishop Wilton Gregory, who is well known to be associated with the Bernardin-McCarrick episcopal cabal. He won’t condemn someone like Father Martin, in spite of the fact that Father Martin is the leading Catholic voice supporting the grave sin of homosexual activity. Bishop Barron is also an uncritical, enthusiastic defender of all things Pope Francis.

The only people Bishop Barron ever criticizes are his own critics: traditional Catholics who stray from the conservative Catholic party line and call out the failures of our Church leaders.

10 posted on 07/27/2021 10:01:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
You are a one-trick pony.
Clearly you knew this topic was about GOOD AND EVIL.... and yet you cant help yourself, and ...
there You go right back to "hell" as in all of your attacks...and you know they are false AS WELL.
I sent you the Bishop's FAQ page....
You are misrepresenting (the "L" word) his positions....

Why? Thats Calumny against the clergy.

QUICK QUESTIONS (posting for YOU- AGAIN)

What does Bishop Barron believe about hell and salvation?
Bishop Barron simply agrees with what the Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches in paragraph #1821, where it says we should hope and pray for all men to be saved:

In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere “to the end” and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for “all men to be saved.”

Does Bishop Barron deny that hell exists?

NO. Bishop Barron does not deny the existence of hell,
because to do so would be to deny permanent and authoritative Church doctrine. He agrees hell exists and is a real possibility for every person.

Does Bishop Barron teach we can have a “reasonable hope” all will be saved? If so, what does he mean by “reasonable”?

Yes, Bishop Barron is convinced we have a “reasonable hope” that all will be saved. But the first step in assessing and critiquing a view is to understand the terms of the view as its proponent is using them. It’s important to note how Bishop Barron is using those two words in this context (“reasonable” and “hope”).
First, he means reasonable in the sense that we have good reasons to ground our hope—namely, the cross and Resurrection of Jesus and his divine mercy. He isn’t making any sort of probabilistic judgment, as if to say reasonable means “very likely” or “quite probable.”

Second, we should recognize hope to mean a deep desire and longing, tied to love, for the salvation of all people, but without knowing all will be saved, thinking all will be saved, or even expecting all will be saved.

Bishop Barron does not hold any of these alternative views. He does not know all will be saved, he does not think all will be saved, and he does not expect all to be saved.

Is Bishop Barron a universalist?

No. Universalism is a heresy that has been condemned by the Church. Its adherents claim to know that all people will be saved. Universalism is a claim of certainty, to have definite knowledge about hell being empty.

But Bishop Barron doesn’t claim this. He is not a universalist. He doesn’t claim to know all people will be saved, nor does he even think or expect that all will be saved. Instead, he merely prays and hopes that all will be saved. It’s critical to make these distinctions.

Didn’t Our Lady of Fatima show a vision of many people suffering in hell?

Yes, as a warning of the torments of hell—not as a window into an unavoidable future. We know this because in the same Fatima appearance, she also gave us the Fatima prayer, commanding us to recite it often, and lead all souls to heaven, >/i>especially those most in need of thy mercy”.

Our Lady would never ask us to pray for something that’s impossible, so there must be at least a basic hope for the possibility that all souls can be led to heaven.

Theres more if you need it... just say the word....
11 posted on 07/27/2021 10:05:09 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope.")
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To: ebb tide

“Troubling Kinship” interesting article!


12 posted on 07/27/2021 10:06:14 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: MurphsLaw

Excellent. Bp Barron has been misrepresented by fanatics who really don’t know anything about theology, just want to join negative discussions about angels on the head of a pin.


13 posted on 07/27/2021 10:10:57 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: MurphsLaw

The FAQ page was posted after Barrons little spout of heresy.

It’s called “covering one’s ass”. Speaking of which, what’s with his kinship with James Martin, S.J.?


14 posted on 07/27/2021 10:15:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MurphsLaw; Marchmain
The part of that controversial Bishop Barron interview with a gay atheist nobody’s talking about
15 posted on 07/27/2021 10:27:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Just remember Ebb...to always...
Keep on the sunny side, Always on the sunny side of Life"

and...from Jesus...

+++I have told you this so that through me you may have peace. In the world you'll have trouble, but be courageous—I've overcome the world!"+++
16 posted on 07/28/2021 1:41:53 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen, is not hope.")
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