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Op-Ed: "Francis Has Unleashed a War: It Will End With the Full Triumph of Tradition."
Rorate Caeli ^ | July 19, 2021 | Roberto de Mattei

Posted on 07/19/2021 10:08:46 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: rmichaelj

My Mom taught us that true manners are to make others fee comfortable and dressing modestly within styles of the current culture does that.


41 posted on 07/19/2021 5:24:08 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

Manners are great as long as they don’t keep you from doing the right thing.

Your mothers advice sounds reasonable for now, but the way this culture is going and the raising of the bar for what it takes to make some people feel comfortable may make that an impossibility in the near future.

Hope I’m wrong! Have to go.


42 posted on 07/19/2021 5:40:20 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: amihow
"I do get touchy having to defend V2v, JP2 and Paul6th and John 23rd however to many TLM people."

St. John Paul was the force that restored the Traditional Mass in 1984:

"The Vatican announced today that Pope John Paul II would allow limited use of the Latin- only Tridentine Mass, which was banned worldwide two decades ago."
Benedict let it flourish. Not a distinction without a difference but it's important to note that (a) the situation before July 15 is due mostly to JPII, and which is why it operated in the clear until Bergoglio's recent illness has forced him to enunciate his bucket list; and (b) Bergoglio knows this and his was a specific attack on the legacy of JPII.
43 posted on 07/20/2021 1:54:48 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress.)
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To: amihow
I recognize the abuses in the Novus Ordo and the TLM.

Pray tell, what abuses have you observed in the TLM?

44 posted on 07/20/2021 2:04:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I do not currently go to TLM.


45 posted on 07/20/2021 2:07:24 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

Yes, you have said the same.

But what abuses in the TLM did you observe “decades ago”, as you have claimed in your post #25?

Or are you just blowing smoke?


46 posted on 07/20/2021 2:14:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: amihow
"I have immense concern for Him"

Why did you capitalize "Him"? Is Jorge a god to you?

47 posted on 07/20/2021 2:22:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Lol. No. That snark is sooo holier/smarter/ Gnostic than thou TLM like.


48 posted on 07/20/2021 2:55:17 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow

What abuses did you observe at Traditional Latin Masses decades ago?

Devil got your tongue?


49 posted on 07/20/2021 3:02:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Answered you I believe.


50 posted on 07/20/2021 3:48:18 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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To: amihow
Answered you I believe.

No, you didn't. Just like I thought, "blowing smoke".

P.S. Anybody who defends the mason, Paul VI, the man who tried his best to abrogate the TLM is not an orthodox Catholic.

51 posted on 07/20/2021 4:59:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

What is your complaint about Paul6th?


52 posted on 07/20/2021 5:04:21 PM PDT by amihow (It is Western Civilization that confers privilege, not whiteness. Ask Carson, MLK, Sowell.)
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What is your complaint about Paul6th?

It is the same a Fr. Father Luigi Villa's:

Paul VI Beatified?

Please take the time to read it before you defend him anymore.

53 posted on 07/20/2021 5:09:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: amihow
Sorry. The first link appears to be broken.

Try this one:

Paul VI Beatified?.

54 posted on 07/20/2021 5:13:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: amihow
Pope Paul VI Freemason exposed!
55 posted on 07/20/2021 6:57:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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