Jorge Bergoglio Treats Traditionalists Like Heretics While German Schismatics & Others Who Violate Scripture Get The Red Carpet Synodal Way

7/17/2021 | Its All Over Except...

[Its All Over Except ...]

Jorge Bergoglio, numerous bishops, etc, have shown they are not the kind and caring proponents of Vatican II they made themselves out to be. The treatment Traditionalists receive from Vatican II types and modernists is how Antifa treats someone carrying the American flag or wearing a red MAGA hat. This was known by many, but now more see the truth. Bergoglio suspended the TLM but not clown masses, scantily-clad women dancing in NO masses, hip-hop and rock music playing during NO masses, etc. YT is literally overrun with videos showing these things occurring and a very substantial number are from the past few years.

Rather, the bishops toss out good priests while they have nowhere near the zeal when it comes to tossing out scum. Bergoglio is on a quest to be rigid against rigidity, is collegial with James Martin types and when giving awards to pro-aborts, and bends over backwards for German schismatics.

Just keep your mouth shut, don't complain about money spent on RocketMan, don't complain about Father Altman being removed but it's okay to call and complain about his taking a stand, and remember to keep putting money in the coffers!

[Its All Over Except ...]

50% of Novus Ordo types are pro-LGBTQ, 2/3 don’t believe in the Real Presence.

Jorge Bergoglio is silent.

A Pachamama monstrance was recently seen in a church in Mexico:

Jorge Bergoglio is silent.

Bishops toss priests who preach against sin, love their people and whose parishes are growing, etc.

Jorge Bergoglio is silent.

Decades until even now of hip-hop, rock music, scantily-clad women, priests dressed as clowns, priests dancing, all at the mass.

Jorge Bergoglio doesn’t shut it down.

The bishops ban sacraments.

Jorge Bergoglio is silent.

But those TLM “oddballs” (Bergoglio’s own words) went to mass anyway, confessed, received last rights, etc.

Jorge Bergoglio: shut it down!!!

[chajin]

To all my Catholic fellow travelers in Christ who are so quick to beat up on the “heretic” Luther, a reminder that it was crap like this in the 1500s that made Luther necessary to bring the church back to Christ, and it’s crap like this in the 2000s that will make another Luther necessary—and when God raises him up, be ready to follow him as he follows Christ.

[joma89]

It is 1517 all over again. History does not repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme.

[TheStickman]

Praying for an actual Catholic to replace the liberation theologist/marxist who currently occupies the office.

[Claud]

Nope. Exactly the wrong take. Traditionalist Catholics are who we are because we accept what the Catholic Church is...divinely instituted by Christ.

We are not the heretics. We believe what we always believed....right back to the Apostles and the Church Fathers. The same reason we opposed Luther in the 1500s is the same reason we oppose the liberals now:

Because they have abandoned the immemorial teaching of Holy Mother Church for the novel doctrines of heretics.

In fact, Luther’s crap theology is exactly why this sort of thing is happening....and I see a direct ideological chain from “Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders” through “freedom of religion” to “IT’S MAAM!!”

[Claud]

If this situation were 1517 all over again, Luther would be sitting on the papal throne.

And the Council of Trent would have had to clean up the mess he made.

[piusv]

Yes, Bergoglio has effectively written in his MP on the TLM that Traditionalists are out of the Church. Those who just prefer the TLM need to wake up that this has always been about more than just the liturgy.

[virgil]

You can have Mass in French, Spanish, Italian, German, Dutch, Polish and more. How is that not divisive? Why not Latin? They even already have missals in Latin and with an English translation on the opposite page. I smell sulfur.

[arthurus]

Converting the Church into an episcopalian clone is the major step toward total secularization of ceremony and belief. I have already seen that in the "let's do it this way" attitude that was rife 30 years ago and is being brought back now. The enthusiastic laicization of the Mass reached a peak as the effects of VII rolled through the Church. I went to what I thought to be Mass at a large traditional looking church in Atlanta when I had to go up there for a week. I thought it was odd when , while driving in, I noticed that all the glass was plain. Inside pre-mass was noisy as people hallooed each other across the nave and were busy moving about socializing. Then the Mass opened with the robed female saying, "In the name of the Creator, the Redeemer, and the Sanctifier. There was a priest on the Dais who took no part except in the actual transubstantiation where he had the woman standing beside him copying his movements and speaking the words with him. Otherwise he just sat there. At that my daughter and I had had enough. We got up and left. I told her we had to get home quickly so that we can attend evening Mass. She said,"What was that?"

[Sixgun Symphony]

FYI, Jesus and his disciples did not speak Latin, they spoke Hebrew and possibly Aramaic.

The people who love the Latin Mass are focused on a tradition that came long after the time of Jesus.

That said, the current Pope is a Marxist and it is rather suspicious that Benedict was “retired”.

[Marchmain]

If that was a dubious idea before, now we can’t avoid the reality.

[rmichaelj]

It’s not just the language, the prayers and the focus of the TLM and the novus ordo are different. That is why they can’t tolerate its existence.

[Campion]

It wasn’t that long after the time of Jesus. The Tridentine Rite is basically a very gentle editing of the liturgy of the Roman Church ca AD 500. It wasn’t cooked up in the 16th Century.