Posted on 06/22/2021 6:59:49 PM PDT by ebb tide
June 22, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – The article The Viganò Case: The Archbishop and His Double, which appeared yesterday at Corrispondenza Romana in both Italian and English, signed by Professor Roberto de Mattei, has been pointed out to me.
I am unable not to express my amazement at the statements that an illustrious Catholic intellectual, hailed as a champion of Tradition and who has not spared the Hierarchy criticism that is at times severe but always carefully considered and just, felt that he had to make in my regard. In reality, it would have been enough to consult me verbally or by letter in order to dispel his suspicions and feel reassured that all of my writings, declarations, and interviews which I have given are the fruit of a maturation of convictions of which I proudly claim full paternity.
The idea that I have a “double” must be the fruit of some adviser to whom Professor de Mattei has improvidently lent his faith, without realizing that by doing so he has exposed himself to the public refutation of completely unfounded allegations, which also sound, if I may be allowed to say so, not very charitable in my regard. I am therefore taking the opportunity afforded by his article to deny his impudent and fanciful theses, reassuring those who have the goodness to read me and listen to me that there is no ghost writer, and that by the grace of God I still have full possession of my faculties, I am not manipulated by anyone, and I am absolutely determined to continue my apostolic mission for the salvation of souls.
In other times, de Mattei would have been proud to be at my side in the common battle for Catholic truth, for the defense of the immutable Magisterium and of the venerable Traditional Liturgy against the assaults of the Modernists. He would have probably also been at my side in denouncing the pandemic fraud and the intrinsic immorality of experimental vaccines produced with fetal material derived from abortions.
His recent interventions – published with his own name or under a pseudonym – have demonstrated, not without heartfelt sorrow, that if there is a “double” it must be sought in the recent writings of the Professor; writings that seem to be composed by a dull regime official who is obedient to the mainstream narrative, and not by the sharp mind and genuine faith of the de Mattei I once knew. Quantum mutatus ab illo.
+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop
June 22, 2021
S. Paulini, Episcopi et Confessoris
Ping
“If anybody has switched horses in Bergoglio’s war on the Catholic Church; it’s Roberto de Mattei with his emphatic support of abortion-tainted “vaxxes” and unjustified attacks on traditional Catholic prelates and laymen. He needs prayers as does Bergoglio and Biden need prayers.”
I agree with your assessment completely. It seems some people are easily turned or manipulated. Or, it could be their convictions blow with the current winds thus, revealing they have no true conviction at all.
Vigano is always posing and posturing and writing in overblown 19th century prose. Any and all topics, out he comes with lengthy corrections and judgments. Who is he to be judge of everything that goes on in the Church? He’s a retired archbishop. If he chooses to pen editorials all the time, at least let them be edifying for the Church, not a step above a gossip column.
The Pope Francis Little Book of Insults
???? Really?
You don't consider Bergoglio's pontifications on global warming, a New Reset, One World Government or countries without borders to be edifying for the Church, Marchmain?
Who do you think talks more about Catholic faith and morals, the last four things in life, etc., Marchmain? Bergoglio or Archbishop Vigano?
"Rosary counter!"
"They make themselves up like little holy cards, looking up at heaven as they pray, making sure they are seen!"
"Vain, butterfly-priest!"
"Existential schizophrenics!”
"Terrorism of gossip!”
“Those who insatiably try to multiply their powers and to do so are capable of calumny, defamation and discrediting others, even in newspapers and magazines, naturally to show themselves as being more capable than others!”
"The root of all wars: all calamities, all wars, begin with an exclusion!"
"It is a dialectic between exclusion and inclusion!"
"We have read what this servant did, how he acted with shrewdness, in order to remain in his position!”
"And the comfort of the state: I have reached a certain state and I live comfortably!"
"Humans often bow down before things whose splendour is only a reflection that will be extinguished one day - or worse still they become devoted to even more fleeting pleasures!"
"Worldliness that leads you to one unique thought, and to apostasy!"
"This mentality, this humanism, which is to take the place of the true man, Jesus Christ, that comes to take away the Christian identity and brings us to the single thought: 'They all do it, why not us?!'"
"Today Jesus weeps as well: because we have chosen the way of war, the way of hatred, the way of enmities!"
"There is always a danger of corruption within the Church!"
"This is ‘holy bribery’!"
“The coexistence of wealth and poverty is a scandal, a true disgrace to humanity!”
"They have no horizons!"
“God does not love rigidity!"
"It’s not a theatrical attitude!"
"The slaves of appearances!"
“How ugly envy is! It is an attitude, it is an ugly sin!"
"The envious heart, too – we hear it here – leads to killing, to death!"
"Envy kills!”
"The first job of a bishop is not to prepare pastoral plans...no, no!"
"God's people suffer. Because the columns are weak!"
"So he lacks! He’s missing something and is not a true Christian!"
"It takes a special grace to change the heart of a corrupt person!"
"Woe betide routine in spiritual life!"
"‘Was I mistaken in proclaiming someone who isn’t who I thought?’ The suffering, the interior solitude of John the Baptist!"
"Obstacles that close the doors of the heart!"
"The trap of moving away from the door!"
"The love that serves, not the selfishness that is served!"
"The pursuit of prestige based on continuous, relentless exclusion of those 'who are not like me'"!
"God’s employees!"
"This is the religion of saying!”
"Truly in a bubble of vanity!"
"He took the way of falsehood, because he trusted only in himself, in his things – he did not trust in God!"
"From antiquity through their Middles Ages, their modernity, and even down to their present – and we do not forget. Why?!"
"This courageous Peter has nothing in common with Peter the coward!"
"Doctors of the letter!"
"Closed, hard, foolish hearts resisting the Spirit!"
"Happiness cannot be bought: it is not an app that you can download on your phones!"
"Enbalmed, mummy Christians!"
"Christians who don’t make the Beatitudes bloom in their lives!"
“A joy without hope is just enjoyment, a temporary happiness!"
"This ‘orphan-like’ condition which the spirit of the world wants to put us in!”
"Parlour Christians!"
"The all-too-common spiritual illiteracy which renders us incapable of prayer!"
"These people are called ‘weed-sowers’! They sow weeds, they divide!"
"He destroys! He destroys the reputation, he destroys the life, and so many times—so many times! Without reason, contrary to the truth!"
"True bloodsuckers!"
"Living on the blood of the people! And this is a mortal sin. This is a mortal sin!"
"Jesus never negotiates with the truth!"
"Shackled to his belongings!"
"One who serves cannot hoard his free time!"
"This is the system through which they legitimate: the lawyers, theologians!"
"A system of corruption, worldliness and concupiscence!’
"Accountant of the Spirit!"
"Mirror spirituality is a bad thing!”
"And Jesus said to them, ‘you have killed the prophets, you have persecuted the prophets: those who were bringing fresh air!’”
"It is the pathology of sadness!"
"So you can see that not to accept ourselves, to live glumly, to be negative, means not to recognize our deepest identity!"
"People will try to block you, to make you think that God is distant, rigid and insensitive!"
"Flee the satisfaction of being at the centre of things!"
"To evangelize is not to proselytize!"
"There are people like this – but there are also holy people! – who do this. This is vanity: You try to appear with a face like a pretty picture, and yet your truth is otherwise!"
"The lukewarm person allocates to God and others a percentage of their time and their own heart, never spending too much, but rather always trying to economize!"
"The one of thinking like masters, of giving oneself only in order to gain something or become someone. In such cases service becomes a means and not an end, because the end has become prestige; and then comes power, the desire to be great!"
"But don’t reduce the Spirit and the Son to the Law!"
"Those who preach with ideologies: It’s absolutely just! They bewitch!"
"It’s all clear. But look, the revelation is not clear, eh?"
"The revelation of God is discovered more and more each day, it is always on a journey. Is it clear? Yes! It is crystal clear! It is Him, but we have to discover it along the way!"
"Your interior is wicked, is not good and is not free!"
"Pretender!"
"Nominalist hypocrite!"
"Praying with a spirit that becomes air?"
"Are you a loyal and transparent person or a hypocrite?”
“Even nowadays in front of the calamities, the wars waged in order to worship the god of money, the many innocent people killed by the bombs launched by those who worship the idol of money, God still weeps and He also says: ‘Jerusalem, Jerusalem, my children, what are you doing?’
"Duplicitous and playing one hand off against the other!"
"In constant tension, concerned only about appearances and the worldly desires of fame and fortune!"
"This entertainment religion of seeking things that are extraneous to the revelation, to the meekness of the Kingdom of God that is among us and which grows! For this is not about hope, this is about the desire to have something in our hands!"
"The ideologies on love, the ideologies on the Church, the ideologies that strip the Flesh of Christ from the Church!"
"And I urge you to buy white clothes in which to dress, so that your shameful nakedness is not seen!
"Renting their places, right? – from the priests… the priests were renting out those places and then received money!"
"When they see a priest attached to money, they do not forgive him, and mistreating people, because when a priest mistreats the faithful!"
"The pathology of indifference!"
"Those who suffer the deception of ‘living as though we never had to die!’
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Pope Francis in his Consistory Address to Cardinals in 2016 |
“Think of when there is a process of change in an institution or in a family. I hear you say: 'But, there are obstacles… (…) Those kinds of obstacles are put there by the devil, to stop the Lord from going ahead!”
And then, he said, there is the “obstacle of words that justify": that’s when a person constantly justifies himself – he always finds a reason to oppose.
"The obstacle of "accusatory words": when we accuse others so as not to look to ourselves. In this case too we are ‘resisting’ conversion and grace!
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It started out little. |
“A man with a bitter heart, someone who always had something to criticize in others, he was always ‘detached’!"
"An unsatisfied man!”
"Go-betweens who like to stroll the squares to be seen!"
"Rigid Intermediaries!"
"These people had forgotten what it was to be a pastor!
"A law that they have remade many times: so many times, to the point that they had arrived at 500 commandments. Everything was regulated, everything!"
‘But this is not orthodox, this is heretical, this is not the Messiah I expected.’ The devil does this work, and some friend also helps, no?!"
"More interested in watching soap operas, in gossiping, in pursuing an ambition or talking about the lives of others!"
"For those are worldly categories, the paltry idols to which we pay homage: the cult of power, outward appearances and superiority!"
"The corrosive disease of being 'spiritual orphans'!"
"Detached from the people, they were not close!"
"That’s where you find the authority of the Pope, closeness!"
"Open to the Lord, not closed, not hard, not hardened, not without faith, not perverted, not deceived by sin!"
"The doctors of the law, all these people who persecuted him, put him to the test to convict him!"
"In their hearts they said: What ignorant people! What superstitious people! How often, when we see the piety of simple people!
“Following Jesus according to the rules of an insurance company!”
"Watching life with a soul that is static!"
"Christians who do not have the will to go forward!"
"Stationary Christians!"
“Life does not come to any of us wrapped up like a gift!"
"They look only at themselves, they don’t raise their heads to look at Him!"
"Doing the Lord’s will, but only superficially, like the doctors of the law that Jesus condemned because they were pretending!"
"Statisticians might have been inclined to publish: ‘Rabbi Jesus’ popularity is falling’. But he sought something else: he sought people! And the people sought him!"
"Turning what the Lord presents as an opportunity for mission into something dangerous, threatening, potentially disastrous!"
"Religious activists”!"
"No, no, no! The woman is there to bring harmony!"
“There are so many corrupt people, corrupt ‘big fish’ in the world, whose lives we read about in the papers!"
“The Word of God cannot be given as a proposal – ‘well, if you like it…’ – or like good philosophical or moral idea – ‘well, you can live this way…’No!"
"And so many Christians are like this, and these people scandalize others! How many times have we heard – all of us, around the neighbourhood and elsewhere!"
"To be a Catholic like that; it’s better to be an atheist!’"
"A totally double life!"
"A prayer that soothes our conscience!"
"A fasting that makes us feel good!"
"'I am not just, I exploit the people'!"
"It is a very grave sin to fire employees as a result of economic operations and unclear negotiations!”
"The sterility of those who rely only on themselves and the things they can control!"
"This man was not simply a sinner but a corrupt person!"
You broke my scroll wheel.
It wasn’t me; it was Bergoglio.
Vigano is a great religious leader and a voice of truth where the smoke of the Evil One has been planted and spread.
God bless Archbishop Viganò!!
Why do the Bishops not see and expose the scandals in the church hierarchy and their supporters?
It appears that there are very few Bishops and priests willing to speak God’s Truth about our Catholic faith and correct the blatant attacks that are attempting to destroy our Catholic faith.
Thank you Archbishop Vigano and others that speak out, while our Bishops and priests are silent in their homilies about the attacks on our Catholic faith.
There was no response to the questions of the Dubia.
Evidently, because the matters that Viganò has been touching on in the past year (the “global reset,” the national lockdowns, the virus, the various vaccinations, all such social and political matters, but also the archbishop’s increasing focus on the beauty and holiness of the old Mass, and his tracing of a certain rejection of traditional Catholic teaching (which might be termed “modernism”) back to the 1960s, and before, rather than seeing it only in the years of this present pontificate) are very disturbing to some —
I can see why Archbishops Vigano disturbs you, and others. And I'm glad to he does.
Dubia were not questions in good faith, they were insulting pre-decided answers posed as questions.
They were valid questions of pastoral concern that were asked in good faith and Pope Francis ignored. why do you say “they were insulting pre-decided answers posed as questions.”?
The sending of the letter to His Holiness Pope Francis by four cardinals has its origin in a deep pastoral concern.
We have noted a grave disorientation and great confusion of many faithful regarding extremely important matters for the life of the Church. We have noted that even within the episcopal college there are contrasting interpretations of Chapter 8 of “Amoris Laetitia.”
The great Tradition of the Church teaches us that the way out of situations like this is recourse to the Holy Father, asking the Apostolic See to resolve those doubts which are the cause of disorientation and confusion.
Ours is therefore an act of justice and charity.
Of justice: with our initiative we profess that the Petrine ministry is the ministry of unity, and that to Peter, to the Pope, belongs the service of confirming in the faith.
Of charity: we want to help the Pope to prevent divisions and conflicts in the Church, asking him to dispel all ambiguity.
We have also carried out a specific duty. According to the Code of Canon Law (c. 349) the cardinals, even taken individually, are entrusted with the task of helping the Pope to care for the universal Church.
The Holy Father has decided not to respond. We have interpreted his sovereign decision as an invitation to continue the reflection, and the discussion, calmly and with respect.
And so we are informing the entire people of God about our initiative, offering all of the documentation.
We hope that no one will choose to interpret the matter according to a “progressive/conservative” paradigm. That would be completely off the mark. We are deeply concerned about the true good of souls, the supreme law of the Church, and not about promoting any form of politics in the Church.
We hope that no one will judge us, unjustly, as adversaries of the Holy Father and people devoid of mercy. What we have done and are doing has its origin in the deep collegial affection that unites us to the Pope, and from an impassioned concern for the good of the faithful.
+ Card. Walter Brandmüller
+ Card. Raymond L. Burke
+ Card. Carlo Caffarra
+ Card. Joachim Meisner
Maybe you can answer the questions?
1. It is asked whether, following the affirmations of “Amoris Laetitia” (nn. 300-305), it has now become possible to grant absolution in the Sacrament of Penance and thus to admit to Holy Communion a person who, while bound by a valid marital bond, lives together with a different person “more uxorio” (in a marital way) without fulfilling the conditions provided for by “Familiaris Consortio” n. 84 and subsequently reaffirmed by “Reconciliatio et Paenitentia” n. 34 and “Sacramentum Caritatis” n. 29. Can the expression “in certain cases” found in note 351 (n. 305) of the exhortation “Amoris Laetitia” be applied to divorced persons who are in a new union and who continue to live “more uxorio”?
2. After the publication of the Post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation “Amoris Laetitia” (cf. n. 304), does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s Encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 79, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, on the existence of absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts and that are binding without exceptions?
3. After “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 301) is it still possible to affirm that a person who habitually lives in contradiction to a commandment of God’s law, as for instance the one that prohibits adultery (cf. Mt 19:3-9), finds him or herself in an objective situation of grave habitual sin (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, Declaration, June 24, 2000)?
4. After the affirmations of “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 302) on “circumstances which mitigate moral responsibility,” does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s Encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 81, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, according to which “circumstances or intentions can never transform an act intrinsically evil by virtue of its object into an act ‘subjectively’ good or defensible as a choice”?
5. After “Amoris Laetitia” (n. 303) does one still need to regard as valid the teaching of St. John Paul II’s encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” n. 56, based on Sacred Scripture and on the Tradition of the Church, that excludes a creative interpretation of the role of conscience and that emphasizes that conscience can never be authorized to legitimate exceptions to absolute moral norms that prohibit intrinsically evil acts by virtue of their object?
I'm now convinced you are modernist.
These questions aren’t very hard. That’s why it’s an affront to the pope to ask them in arch tones implying he is opposing the Church.
1. no
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. yes
Bergoglio - good.
Vigano - bad.
Right?
Ummm, maybe something like
Bergoglio - bad.
Vigano - irrelevant.
They're hard enough for an apostate pope to not address them after 4 and a half years.
Yet, the heretic bishop, Bobby Barron, is relevant.
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