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The Contemporary Christian Music Scene is Imploding as Artist after Artist is Renouncing Faith in Jesus Christ to Follow the New Age 'Universal Christ'
nteb ^ | 5/26/21 | Geoffrey Grider

Posted on 05/27/2021 11:22:40 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: stanne
Maybe they’ll get back to classic Catholic hymns at Mass and get rid of the campfire girls trash and drums. And get off the altar. There’s a choir loft for a reason

If they have renounced Christianity, then the Church of Rome is the perfect place for them.
41 posted on 05/27/2021 1:01:58 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Whatever doesn’t kill you will make you stronger. Except bears. Bears will definitely kill you.)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
As well you should, FRiend. Matthew 6:7 warns us against vain repetitions, which so much of today’s entertainment-based praise music is full of.

Is repeating the “Our Father” and “Hail Mary” prayer 150 times during a rosary the same thing?
42 posted on 05/27/2021 1:04:44 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Whatever doesn’t kill you will make you stronger. Except bears. Bears will definitely kill you.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Nice picture from 1988.

Nope. Not kidding. Check out their latest album, “Even the Devil Believes”.

Their appearance (and message) sure got the attention didn’t it?


43 posted on 05/27/2021 1:05:39 PM PDT by ArizonaJacks
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To: Old Yeller

Is repeating the “Our Father” and “Hail Mary” prayer 150 times during a rosary the same thing?


Perhaps, perhaps not. Is that ‘vain repetition’? Doesn’t feel like it to me - and I grew up Catholic and have preyed the rosary more than once in my youthful years.

God is the only true judge of man, so I won’t otherwise speculate here.


44 posted on 05/27/2021 1:08:15 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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45 posted on 05/27/2021 1:09:17 PM PDT by ArizonaJacks
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To: Fred Hayek
I get a bad vibe when I here contemporary “worship” music in the sanctuary

I get the same bad vibe (and a case of the yawns) from hymns, but to each his own. I think this difference is why a lot of churches have both a traditional and contemporary service on Sundays. C.S. Lewis loathed hymns, so I don't feel too bad about my preference for contemporary music.


46 posted on 05/27/2021 1:10:55 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Fiji Hill

“travesty that electric guitars and drums...”

I totally agree. I am amazed that people listen to the stuff in church. And that they really get into it. Swaying, waving their arms above their heads with their eyes closed or rolling back into their skulls. It’s such dreck. Puerile, repetitive, banal lyrics. The “music” to me sounds like it was written by mediocre musicians with little talent. They’re mostly repeating a few chords over and over and adding a lot of volume and pounding drums to cover up how pathetic it all is. I read somewhere that a lot of them are failed rock musicians who turned to CCM to make a buck.

Look up the Bethel Church crowd of Redding, California, particularly Bill Johnson and Heidi Baker. That “church” is a major producer of CCM along with Hillsong. Johnson claims feathers and gold dust falling during his services are evidence of Divine visitation. Heidi Baker, one of his “apostles” is into Kundalini style worship with the poor saps in her audience twitching and moaning as she repeats mantras with a praise band as a back-up to her hypnosis of the susceptible. It’s really disturbing and sickening.

People are taken in by the stuff that these shysters are passing off as Christianity. They’re laughing all the way to the bank as they bilk their naive victims.


47 posted on 05/27/2021 1:11:59 PM PDT by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: Hambone 1934

They want the loving and forgiving father not the wrathful and holy father. He is all those things. All must be understood and worshiped.


48 posted on 05/27/2021 1:19:23 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent)
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To: Cinnamontea

There is a lot of substance to old hymns. Look closely at the lyrics, most of which are based on Bible passages. “Abide with Me,” is full of meaning. “Holy, Holy, Holy” is another terrific hymn; much of its imagery is drawn from the Book of Revelation. The writers of hymns were often great poets. Their work has stood the test of time. I can’t say the same for CCM.


49 posted on 05/27/2021 1:21:37 PM PDT by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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To: Fiji Hill

I care not what instrument is played, I care that the words are true to the word and celebrates the good news.


50 posted on 05/27/2021 1:22:22 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Good response. I get tired of the occasional denomination debates. It’s really quite simple. Love god, love your brother and accept the grace / sacrifice Jesus made for you. Most of the noise is open handed.


51 posted on 05/27/2021 1:27:21 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent)
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To: Old Yeller

“Church of Rome” Why exactly?


52 posted on 05/27/2021 1:27:58 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

While I have some doctrinal differences with Catholic theology, there is one case in naval history, namely, the Battle of Lepanto. The Ottoman fleet had a numerical advantage over that of the Holy League.
Each of the Holy League ships had a cleric at the bow praying the Rosary. As much as I have some differences, I believe that God respected and honored that, handing a decisive victory over the Ottomans. This was a major upset for the Ottomans, up there with the Battle of Vienna.


53 posted on 05/27/2021 1:32:59 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Antifa=BLM=RevCom=CPUSA = CCP=Democratic Party )
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To: wgmalabama

Love God, love your brother and accept the grace / sacrifice Jesus made for you.


Amen. Love God first and foremost, and get to know as much about him as the Bible will reveal to you. If you do that, you’ll find it easier to love your brother and to accept the grace made possible through Jesus’ sacrifice.


54 posted on 05/27/2021 1:34:05 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: PA Presbyterian

The old hymns have Biblical references that stand out. Up to and including Fanny Crosby.
Not so much for the ear splitting “Christian rock” and the drone of what amounts to “Christian croon music (Jesus is my boyfriend)”.


55 posted on 05/27/2021 1:36:38 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Antifa=BLM=RevCom=CPUSA = CCP=Democratic Party )
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To: ducttape45
People think I’m nuts when they hear Amazing Grace blaring out my car radio!

Amazing Grace is one of the greatest songs ever written.

56 posted on 05/27/2021 1:59:59 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Fred Hayek

I believe that God respected and honored that...


No question in my mind about the truth of that statement. God is pleased to answer our prayers when they’re in line with his will for us. He won’t ever give us something he knows isn’t in our best interest, but neither will he give us something that is in our best interests if we don’t ask for it.

“You receive not, because you ask not.” James 2:3


57 posted on 05/27/2021 2:04:06 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: Fred Hayek
While I have some doctrinal differences with Catholic theology, there is one case in naval history, namely, the Battle of Lepanto. The Ottoman fleet had a numerical advantage over that of the Holy League.

Lepano was absolutely decisive in stopping the Ottoman Empire in its tracks.

58 posted on 05/27/2021 2:06:58 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: ducttape45

I heard someone call much contemporary Christian music 7-11 music: seven lines repeated eleven times. Give me those old Christian tunes, each one a mini-sermon.


59 posted on 05/27/2021 2:14:37 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Ten or so years ago I decided to write a Christian song. When I finished it I sent it to a young Christian singer of my aquintence from the deep south who laughed and called it the “most mystical Christian song” she’d ever heard. So I guess mystical ain’t good...


60 posted on 05/27/2021 2:26:09 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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