Daily Mass Gospel Reflection - The Divine Worker

Word on Fire Ministry ^ | 5-18-2021 | Aux. Bishop R. Barron

[MurphsLaw]

SEVENTH WEEK OF EASTER

JOHN 17:1–11A

Friends, Jesus’ prayer in today’s Gospel sums up his wonderful work as he is about to return to his Father. Jesus was, in his very person, the meeting of heaven and earth. God and humanity came together in him, and his entire ministry was the outward expression of that inward identity. By calling a scattered Israel to unity, inviting the poor to table fellowship, healing the sick in body and heart, and embodying the path of forgiveness and love, Jesus was bringing God’s will and purpose to earth.

Now, in his Passion and death, Jesus brought heaven all the way down into the world. He carried the divine light into the darkest places of the human condition—hatred, cruelty, violence, corruption, stupidity, suffering, and death itself—and thereby transformed them. And the proof that heaven is able to transform earth is, of course, the Resurrection.

Now we know that cruelty, hatred, violence, fear, suffering, and death are not the most powerful forces in the world. Now we know that the divine love is more powerful. God’s kingdom has, in principle, broken the kingdoms of the world, which thrive upon, and in turn produce, those very negativities.

[MurphsLaw]

+++Jesus raised his eyes to heaven and said,
“Father, the hour has come.
Give glory to your son, so that your son may glorify you,
just as you gave him authority over all people,
so that your son may give eternal life to all you gave him.
Now this is eternal life,
that they should know you, the only true God,
and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
I glorified you on earth
by accomplishing the work that you gave me to do.
Now glorify me, Father, with you,
with the glory that I had with you before the world began.+++

[daniel1212]

Your article is not found at the source. Are you Bishop Robert Barron or just one of his promoters?

[MurphsLaw]

Its not a news article that is published on the web - and one not intended for commentary- just reflection.
Its a Gospel Reflection from a Bishop of the Church - sent via email. You can access sign up to it through a link at the bottom of the URL web page- but it is printed in its entirety here - so there is never any need to go to the web site.

His apostolate reaches over 30+ million people worldwide already- I don't think his mission needs any promoting from me.

[ebb tide]

I don't think his mission needs any promoting from me.

So why do you continue to pimp the heretic's emails while posting links that aren't related to those emails?

Or are your pimping his website, also, Murph?

What's your cut?

[MurphsLaw]

My cut ?
Hopefully a heavenly reward !!!

Ebb, Ebb, Why do you persecute me ?

So you can see...I CLEARLY POST - EVERY REFLECTION POST :

"DAILY MASS GOSPEL" -...(the operative Word being MASS!)
The Gospel for that day's Mass...

WHY THEN- would you or any other ANTI-Catholic WANT TO read something that is titled MASS Gospel reflection?? C'mon man.... THINK !

WHY THEN are you scandalized by something you should not- or would not have no interest in? Thats doesn't make sense...
Are you one of those commie cancel culture people?

If I was "pimping" (vulgar much?) a website - do you THINK I would put in the title a Catholic MASS identifier?? umm..Do you think that is a very smart way to hoodwink someone?

While your wrath has been duly noted... His apostolate is a Global one, meaning world-wide - The good Bishop does not need me, you, Taylor or anyone soliciting for him... It just doesn't work in that way with the Word....

I'm still not seeing any Joy in your outreach....

[ebb tide]

So you can see...I CLEARLY POST - EVERY REFLECTION POST

Exactly! It's as if you worship the heretic.

P.S. Barron's musings are not the "Word".

[MurphsLaw]

I worship the daily Mass Gospel !

and the post is ONLY A REFLECTION....
And what is a reflection...but something we see can ourselves by....personal stuff...

You should know also Bp. Barron welcomes your rancor just the same...had you listened to his sermon this past Sunday he spoke about the criticism that comes his way...he's not interested in tickling your ear- telling everyone what they want to hear ....

26 "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets."

So stay on it....!

[ebb tide]

I worship the daily Mass Gospel !

What Gospel. You didn't even post the Gospel; you just posted the heretic's musings.

You worship Barron's reflections and you even claimed you worship the Blessed Mother while other Catholics venerate Her. Once again, look up hyperdulia.

Catholics are only to worship God, in the Holy Trinity. They venerate the saints and they certainly don't worship Barron's tripe.

You appear to be very confused, no thanks to you hero.

[daniel1212]

"Its not a news article that is published on the web - and one not intended for commentary- just reflection. Its a Gospel Reflection from a Bishop of the Church - sent via email."

Then you should have stated this and perhaps marked it as a caucus thread.

[ebb tide]

It’s nothing but an email with no legitimate link. It doesn’t belong on the Religion Forum.

It should be posted on the Bloggers and Personal Forum as a vanity post.

[MurphsLaw]

Oh its ALL ABOUT RELIGION...you know that -that's why you hate it...
and yes I am working on getting that on a separate link as you suggested.... it should be much more accessible for sure....

Now if you would like me to bomb the FR Religion forum with much more Word on Fire linked content- with the frequency of postings like YOU do....well, just say the word and I will oblige.

Your Choice.

[ebb tide]

Now if you would like me to bomb the FR Religion forum with much more Word on Fire linked content- with the frequency of postings like YOU do....well, just say the word and I will oblige.

You recently said you enjoyed reading most of the articles I post.

[MurphsLaw]

I could... but sometimes the word "protestant" or muslim or Jewish is used in the reflection- and then that becomes an issue for caucus rules.

For a forum that is supposed to exemplify a "Free" exchange of thought... I have found there certainly are a fair amount liberal snow flakes here who get triggered very easily - except when it comes to trashing Christ's Church of 2000 years....

[MurphsLaw]

I did and do. You can get a bit repetitive with the same topic though-

No, my point was that I could be sharing much much more... on a par with your regularity than I do...heck I was off the net for Q4 of last year.... so I was just saying I could be more visible, more exposure in what you consider "pimping"

You should notice the Mass reflection rarely gets any comments- and that's the way ut should be. Sure I get private replies- but any Catholic reading it understands the Gospel nature of it- that requires NO debate- nor should it...

[daniel1212]

"For a forum that is supposed to exemplify a "Free" exchange of thought... I have found there certainly are a fair amount liberal snow flakes here who get triggered very easily - except when it comes to trashing Christ's Church of 2000 years...."

Indeed, as typically anything from a "Protestant" that impugns the cherished deception of your false "one true church" triggers an unhappy reaction, and often a doubling-down of refuted polemics by posting more of them. Here the propagandist shows offense at being called for linking to an article (as FR requires) that simply is not there, without explanation. How dare anyone call him on that!

[MurphsLaw]

Indeed, as typically anything from a "Protestant" that impugns the cherished deception of your false "one true church" triggers an unhappy reaction, and often a doubling-down of refuted polemics by posting more of them.

Lol... sure we disagree- thats all good... but you're not even close on this. I wasn't referring to you as a woke liberal cancel culture mutt, if so I would have said so in my reply to you... No youre just in the middle of something...
No no... you do your home work- but the Harlot - whore- from others - while unnecessary, and also against the rules, is to be expected but we all have to stand for something.

No, I get more harassment from whiny "so-called" Catholics (in case you havent noticed) who because of an errant Pope in the Vatican feels its time for a poop storm and cause dissension and division in the Faith- And if they don't like what you say... the mob comes for you... You guys- ITS your JOB TO PROTEST ! So that comes with the territory... No you are not enemy of the Catholic Church you might think you are - that enemy is already within...

But I must ask- even to risk being labeled a "propagandist" again... Have you ever called out another poster in the same way as me? Would consistency then require you to call any other poster who might link in the same manner- regardless of faith belief?
Peace and Joy.

[ebb tide]

You guys (protestants)- ITS your JOB TO PROTEST ! So that comes with the territory... No you are not enemy of the Catholic Church you might think you are - that enemy is already within...

So the Murph gives a free pass to the prots, while she continues to attack traditional Catholics. Bobby Barron has certainly poisoned your mind, I pray for the two of you.

It's the Catholics JOB TO PROTEST heretics like Bobby Barron, Cupcake Cupich, Nighty-Nite Tobin, and Jorge Bergoglio; yet you side with the prots and attack fellow Catholics, if you are even Catholic.

[daniel1212]

"No, I get more harassment from whiny "so-called" Catholics (in case you havent noticed) who because of an errant Pope in the Vatican feels its time for a poop storm and cause dissension and division in the Faith- And if they don't like what you say... the mob comes for you... You guys- ITS your JOB TO PROTEST !"

Well, if you believe that Francis (AKA "Bergoglio" to the dissenters) is the valid pope then you seem to be in the minority of vocal RCs here. But I do not blame them for the rejection of Francis as well as modern RC teachings that conflict with her past teaching (but as said, I must reject all distinctive Catholic teachings that are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed - which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

However, such "RadTrad" Catholic protest does essentially make them to be fundamental "Protestants" in the sense that they also make the validity of church teaching subject to their judgment of what ancient church teaching says, except that in our case it is Scripture as affirmed in Acts 17:11, while for them it is mainly historical RC teaching.

Yet those who advocate broad submission to magisterial teaching with its 3 (or 4) levels face another problem, that of the broad scope of this enjoined by popes in the past, such as,

'the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors," "to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff," "of submitting with docility to their judgment," with "no discussions regarding what he orders or demands, or up to what point obedience must go, and in what things he is to be obeyed... not only in person, but with letters and other public documents ;" and 'not limit the field in which he might and must exercise his authority, " for "obedience must not limit itself to matters which touch the faith: its sphere is much more vast: it extends to all matters which the episcopal power embraces," and not set up "some kind of opposition between one Pontiff and another. Those who, faced with two differing directives, reject the present one to hold to the past, are not giving proof of obedience to the authority which has the right and duty to guide them," "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent." (Sources http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3578348/posts?page=14#14)

Trying to argue that not all magisterial teaching requires at least submission of mind and will faces the problem of a lack of any infallible canon listing what magisterial level each and every teaching falls under, and thus the counsel "just obey all" may be the solution as expressed to this bewildered soul on a RC forum dealing with this:

rrr1213: Boy. No disrespect intended…and I mean that honestly…but my head spins trying to comprehend the various classifications of Catholic teaching and the respective degrees of certainty attached thereto. I suspect that the average Catholic doesn’t trouble himself with such questions, but as to those who do (and us poor Protestants who are trying to get a grip on Catholic teaching) it sounds like an almost impossible task. :

But the solution (before Francis at least) he was given was just obey everything:

Well, the question pertained to theology. The Catholic faithful don’t need to know any of this stuff to be faithful Catholics, so you are confusing theology with praxis. Praxis is quite simple for faithful Catholics: give your religious assent of intellect and will to Catholic doctrine, whether it is infallible or not. That’s what our Dogmatic Constitution on the Church demands, that’s what the Code of Canon Laws demand, and that is what the Catechism itself demands. Heb 13:17 teaches us to “obey your leaders and submit to them.” This submission is not contingent upon inerrancy or infallibility. - https://forums.catholic.com/t/catechism-infallible/55096/31

"But I must ask- even to risk being labeled a "propagandist" again... Have you ever called out another poster in the same way as me? Would consistency then require you to call any other poster who might link in the same manner- regardless of faith belief?"

For sure! You are one of a line of such who used to quite regularly post parroted polemics and propaganda but have dropped out after repeated refutations, thanks be to God. And such retreat is wise for them since such attempts actually provide an argument against being a RC.

[ebb tide]

You should notice the Mass reflection rarely gets any comments- and that's the way ut should be.

So why post the heretic's musings?