[daniel1212]

Yes, but who here is preaching a church excepts Catholics? Thus you must own all them she manifestly considers members, or be a schismatic yourself.

"Huh?"

Why is that so hard to understand? Are you defending a "one true church" which manifestly counts even proabortion, prohomosexuality public figures as members in life and in death? With a liberal head? Do you deny that or interpret canon law contrary to her manifest understanding of it, or imagine that faith is defined simply by words, and not actions (cf. James 2:18)?

And who here (aside from a cultist) is defending any one church, vs. a faith?

[al_c]

Why is that so hard to understand? Are you defending a "one true church" which manifestly counts even proabortion, prohomosexuality public figures as members in life and in death? With a liberal head? Do you deny that or interpret canon law contrary to her manifest understanding of it, or imagine that faith is defined simply by words, and not actions (cf. James 2:18)? And who here (aside from a cultist) is defending any one church, vs. a faith?

The Church is not about the people ... it's about Jesus Christ. People are sinners. Every church has them. No, we do not have to accept the sins of the past that were committed by people within the Church.