“Why do you have such a problem with that verse? Because the basis of your spirituality is judgementalism and Phariseeism.”
LOL. Now, you are judging me. And incorrectly. I thought you were against bringing up sin and judging people.
“You ignore the verse I presented, which were the words of Christ Himself.”
Again, you are judging me. And incorrectly. I could have sworn you were just advocating not doing what you are now doing. I think there is a word for that. Yes. Hypocrisy.
“It is the holy spirit’s unenviable job to convince people of sin, righteousness and judgement. It is NOT our job.”
You are changing the subject and backtracking.
In post #5 you said: “So who are we to be bringing up sin, righteousness and judgement. That is NOT our job! Our job is to deliver ONLY good news, not bad news.”
In YOUR words, it is not our “job” to bring up sin.
I gave you endless proof that this statement is FALSE.
And all you’ve done is fixate on one solitary verse, with your solitary idea, that is in total contradiction to what even that particular verse says and means.
“It is the holy spirit’s unenviable job to convince people of sin, righteousness and judgement. It is NOT our job.”
Did you even read what you replied to? You simply repeat a mantra like a cult devotee. Nothing in the passage says anything about what our “job” is. The whole context of the passage is that the disciples are going to be receiving the fulfillment of prophetic scripture very soon by the coming of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit convicts the world THROUGH the Spirit-controlled actions and words of the believers in whom He dwells. So, actually, the very verse you are citing PROVES that it is the “job” of believers to yield their tongues to the Holy Spirit so that He can do His “job”.
The real question is: Why are YOU resisting the Holy Spirit right now by rejecting the Word of God and stubbornly clinging to lies?
It is His words that you are ignoring and fighting. Not mine.
Look at how the Holy Spirit convicted the men Stephen preached to (among whom was Paul):
Acts 7:51-57 NKJV
[Stephen said:] “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.” When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth. But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!” Then they cried out with a loud voice, stopped their ears, and ran at him with one accord.
See these points:
1. the Holy Spirit was working through Stephen (whom the passage says was filled with the Spirit), but the audience was resisting Him
2. the Gospel that Spirit-filled Stephen preached addressed the issue of sin (telling the audience members that they were law breakers) and their need for repentance
3. the Holy Spirit convicted the audience through Stephen’s message because it says they were “cut to the heart”
3. they “stopped their ears,” refusing to listen
Who on this thread is stopping his ears more than you?
Christ preached against sin. Spirit-filled Stephen preached against sin. The Bible speaks against sin. But Kevmo claims superiority to Stephen, the Bible, and Christ Himself by claiming we shouldn’t bring up sin. Personally, I’m going to follow what Stephen, the Bible, and Christ say rather than Kevmo.
lotsa empty words
You said that the holy spirit convicts people of sin THROUGH believers. Got a verse for that?: Your entire premise is based on it.