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To: piasa

“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8-9‬ ‭ESV‬‬


I agree 100%

Unsaved to the moment of salvation = saved by grace only.
WORKS HAS NO IMPACT ON GRACE. It is a free gift of God. (faith unto salvation).

Moment of salvation to judgement is a whole different story. If you talk the talk, you had better walk the walk. Faith without works is a dead faith and God calls you a liar. You will not be in heaven.


381 posted on 03/05/2021 8:01:21 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
So you think God needs you to add soemthing to the righteousness of Christ in order to make it through to final salvation? Do you even have a clue that your religion of seventh day adventist is making Salvation CONDITIONAL? No, that truth escapes your spirit.

Phil, GRACE is unconditional else it is not Grace. There is ONE requirement to receive God's Grace, believe. Believe in Christ and you will be saved, as Paul told the crust, tough Phillipian jailer.

If my old memory is serving me, in John's Gospel 'believe' is stated 99 times to obtain Salvation. Not one of those tiims is anything added in order to receive The Grace of God in Christ Jesus.

When a person is born again, born from above, the righteousness of Christ is IMPUTED to that person's spirit. There is not any thing that you or I can do to improve on that righteousness, nothing we could add to make us more righteous. And because we have that righteousness sealed to our spirit, THAT SPIRIT cannot sin. Someone who does not have that righteousness IMPUTED to their spirit is a lost soul in need of GRACE.

Regardless of you pride, believing you must add to Grace, add to the righteousness God promises for believing in Whom He sent for your salvation, the TRUTH is Salvation is something ONLY God can do for you and by His Promised Presence in your born again spirit He is the only One Who can retain His Presence in your spirit, so there is nothing of law keeping or any other cultish rigor which will or can add to what ONLY God can do.

383 posted on 03/05/2021 8:22:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld
Moment of salvation to judgement is a whole different story. If you talk the talk, you had better walk the walk. Faith without works is a dead faith and God calls you a liar. You will not be in heaven

Nonsense. If you don’t make it to heaven, you aren’t saved. No such thing as coming to salvation and going to hell. Hell is what we are saved from.

Christ didn’t die so that on accepting Him we’d be put back under the Law. We were already under the Law before we came to Him, that’s why we weren’t saved.

The Law wasn’t given to us as a means of salvation. It was given to us to show us God’s holy standard, that we could not meet it and we needed a Savior. It was given to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by FAITH, not by works.

We are not saved by grace, kept by works. It’s saved by grace, kept by grace. It’s grace all the way.

Read Galatians 2&3 for your edification. Paul explains it all there.

Christ died to put us all back under the bondage of law keeping? What idiocy!

390 posted on 03/05/2021 10:26:48 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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