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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN
So, O great bible scholars, what’s the answer? Can born again’s commit sin or not? Are they robots or perfect, or not? Why are you avoiding answering that question?

We've already answered that question...Perhaps it's the wrong question...Maybe the right question is: What penalty does the born again Christian pay for sin...Which begs the question; do you mean the penalty on Earth or in Heaven...And, in the flesh or in the Spirit...

And, I flat out told you that EVERYONE will be judged by my law, whether you keep it or not. It was right there in Romans. How could you have missed it?

And you were wrong...

We didn't miss it...We just kept reading after you stopped...

Rom 2:13  (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 

So that's you...This is us::::

Rom 3:21  But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 
Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 

Can that be any more clear??? God did a switcheroo....

Rom 6:18  Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 
Rom 6:20  For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
  Rom 6:22  But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Gal 2:19  For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 
Gal 5:1  Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 

Why do people join a religion where you have to leave out half the bible in order for the religion to work???

371 posted on 03/05/2021 6:31:34 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

So that’s you...This is us::::

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. That justification is by faith clearly implies that justification is no
mere impersonal adjustment of a man’s legal status in the sight of God. Faith in Christ
involves a personal relationship with the Redeemer. It implies an attitude of love and
gratitude toward the Saviour in response to His love for us sinners. It is based on
profound admiration of Jesus for all that He is, with a sincere desire to know Him better
and become like Him. It means a trust and confidence in Christ that is so entirely without
reservation that we are willing to take Him fully at His word and follow His directions
wherever He may lead.
Without such faith there can be no justification. God is not concerned merely with
forgiving past sins. He is primarily concerned with man’s restoration, and restoration can
be experienced only by means of such faith in Jesus Christ. Therefore, justification
cannot be separated from the transforming experiences of conversion, rebirth, and
subsequent growth in sanctification. Only the faith that gladly accepts and willingly
enters into every phase of God’s program for our restoration can rightfully claim the
imputed righteousness of Christ in justification (see on v. 22; chs. 4:25; 5:1).

WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW. Literally, “without works of law.” In the Greek, “law”
stands without the article (see on ch. 2:12). The meaning of this phrase is clear in the
context of the whole chapter. The basis of every false religious system has been the
mistaken idea that justification could be obtained by obedience to law. But works of law
cannot atone for past sins. Justification cannot be earned. It can only be received by faith
in the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Therefore, in this sense, works of law have nothing to
do with justification. To be justified without there being anything in ourselves to merit
justification.
This, of course, may not be construed to mean that the man who has been justified is
thereby freed from obeying the law or from performing good works. The faith by which
he has been justified will reveal itself in obedience. Paul repeatedly emphasizes the place of good works in the life of the Christian (1 Tim. 5:10; 6:18; 2 Tim. 3:17; Titus 2:7, 14;
3:8; etc.). But he makes it equally clear that these good works do not earn justification
(see Rom. 4:2, 6; 9:32; 11:6; Gal. 2:16; 3:2, 5, 10; Eph. 2:9; 2 Tim. 1:9).


374 posted on 03/05/2021 6:59:17 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Iscool

Why do people join a religion where you have to leave out half the bible in order for the religion to work???


Why do people join a bible based religion and believe crazy, non doctrinal garbage and call it God’s word? (I say to you)


375 posted on 03/05/2021 7:04:20 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Iscool

Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.


Made free from the “bondage” of sin. The bondage that originally condemned you to eternal death.


376 posted on 03/05/2021 7:09:13 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Iscool

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

So that’s you...


Yep, this is me and not you (the Jews represent you)

13. NOT THE HEARERS. The Jews had opportunity to hear the law read regularly in the
synagogues (Acts 15:21). But they had come to suppose that theoretical knowledge of the
law in itself constituted righteousness. They did not seem to recognize the necessity of
perfect and perpetual obedience. Jesus rebuked the Jews for this attitude toward the Word
of God. “You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life;
… yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life” (John 5:39, 40, RSV; cf. DA
211). “The Jews had the Scriptures in their possession, and supposed that in their mere
outward knowledge of the word they had eternal life” (DA 212). This same mistaken
view that knowledge alone brings righteousness and salvation is still current among Jews,
and Christians, today. That God’s will must not only be known but obeyed is also taught
in Matt. 7:21, 24; Luke 6:47–49; James 1:22.

OF THE LAW. Literally, “of law.” The article “the” is absent in the Greek. Those who
have a law to which they may listen and by which they may be guided should be obedient
to it, if they wish to be “justified” in the judgment. The context indicates that as far as the Jews are concerned Paul is still alluding to the standard of moral conduct available to
them, the standard revealed in the OT and especially in the Ten Commandments.

JUSTIFIED. Or, “accounted righteous,” “declared righteous.” Paul is still contrasting the
position in the judgment of those who know the will of God, and yet are unwilling to
obey it, with the position of those who not only know God’s will but give it their full
compliance. That such obedience can come only from faith has already been mentioned
in the epistle (ch. 1:5, 17; cf. ch. 3:20). This verse gives further emphasis to the fact that
men are judged, not by what they claim to know or profess to be, but by what they have
actually done (ch. 2:6).


377 posted on 03/05/2021 7:20:21 PM PST by Philsworld
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