Jehovah’s Witnesses Leader: COVID-19 Signals the “Last Day of the Last Days” rapture

Patheos ^ | 20 march | He meant mehta

[jetson]

It all doesn’t matter because we are living in a computer simulation. DON’T CHA KNOW !

[Philsworld]

I’m going to have to somehow get a free copy of it on the internet. Looks like good reading.

Cronie is in a cult and he was trying to use Billy Crone against me.....Aaaaahhahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!

Baaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah....that right there is funny.

[Philsworld]

Billy Crone says you’re in a cult, Cronie.

Hey, wait just a second there....

Crone/Cronie

(Maybe I can do something with this.)

[Philsworld]

Ok, I’m done. Can we be friends again?

[Cronos]

That is mildly amusing yes

[Cronos]

Ephraim may have, however the tract is called “Pseudo “ ephraim for a reason.

You don’t believe in the Trinity, do you?

[Philsworld]

I found this reading an older thread...

To: NRx
Catholicism: Indisputable Religious Cult

59 posted on 7/28/2016, 12:59:06 AM by wolfman

CULT!

[Philsworld]

Here’s another one:

To: steve86
“Is it the biggest theological fraud inflicted upon modern Christianity?”
No; that would be Roman Catholicism.

85 posted on 7/28/2016, 2:13:41 AM by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)

[Philsworld]

Relevant for you:

Modern Christianity is pretty much all heresy.

1. Baptizing babies
2. Rapture
3. Instant salvation
4. Religious schools ordaining priests and preachers
5. Paid preachers
6. Gay preachers
7. Ordaining women
8. Pedophile priests
etc...

Jesus and the original Apostles spoke of two completely different types of “believers” in the last days. And they gave some signs to look for...There would be the real believers and those that are basically fooling themselves.

Jesus spoke in plain words when teaching about this state that people would be in during this time period. And He said that the real believers would be few in number. Jesus said that the fake believers will have deceived themselves so completely that they won’t truly understand it until that moment that they are cast out of His presence at the judgement.

Paul gave a couple signs of these fake churches. Paul said some “abstain from meat” and others would “forbid to marry”. And called these the doctrines of the devil. These weren’t just bad doctrines these are signs of false churches. Which among all the “Christian” churches forbids their leadership to marry? Which one doesn’t eat meat?

Another sign is people claiming you can receive salvation without adhering to the eternal laws of God concerning salvation. Instead they rationalize it away as if that gives them a pass at the judgment. But it doesn’t.

Every rationalization always comes back to the same thing, they don’t have to do anything. Jesus Himself said every person that actually enters the kingdom of God will have to be as a little child here on earth. Humble, meek, forgiving, full of truth, repentant... there’s no getting around that for any human being. But the fake believers say all you have to do is believe. Even though Jesus said otherwise... it doesn’t matter to them.

John says there are true Moses like prophets in the last days. Does it matter to the fake believers that they don’t actually know any? Nope. Does it matter that God hasn’t spoken to any of their leaders in 2000 years? Nope. Nothing will change their minds until Christ Himself closes the door on them at the judgement. Jesus said their reaction to being finally made aware of the truth will be “weeping” and “gnashing of teeth”.

And it’s all unfolding the way Jesus and the prophets said it would.

130 posted on 7/28/2016, 10:16:48 AM by StormPrepper

[MHGinTN]

Phil, you missed the detail of how they deceived themselves. That is not surprising since work based salvation cults seldom see the obvious. Remember what the rejected wanted to have The Lord count for them? Salvation is by Faith alone, in Christ alone ... no works to be accounted.

[Philsworld]

Salvation is by Faith alone, in Christ alone ... no works to be accounted.

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Saved by grace (faith alone), THEN, judged by the law/works. That is what the bible teaches.

You are more than welcome to purposely break any commandment you wish.

We show our love to God by keeping his commandments.

Romans 3:

28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (Phil and MHG agree)

29Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Only Phil agrees)

[MHGinTN]

Your false assertion, defending your cult's work based religion: "Saved by grace (faith alone), THEN, judged by the law/works. That is what the bible teaches."

Phil, if you ever understand the Gospel of Grace, you will realize that my sin, my works, my failures were all judged at the Cross of my Lord and Savior. If you want to be judged, well just do not trust in Christ alone and try to tell Him what you have done to deserve salvation. You will be horribly rewarded with what the Law requires fro not keeping all the Law.

It really could help you if you would sit down and read the entire letter to the Galatians, without applying sevebthy day adventist spin on the sentences.

[Philsworld]

Then please honestly explain these texts (one explanation for all is fine)

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome

1 John 2
3By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments. 4If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him:…

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love.

[Philsworld]

Rev 22
12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 14
12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev 13
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

What is clear from just these texts is that Commandment keepers will be in heaven (and of course believing in Jesus Christ as your savior)

[unread]

"Ummm... JWs don't believe in a rapture."

Astute, you are... :)

[MHGinTN]

First, you are conflating 'His commandments' the two He gave for The Body of Christ Believers, with the ten commandments. If you do not have the seed of God abiding in your spirit, you cannot display the character of God through you living. The seed of God abides in the born again, so the spirit of the born again conforms to the character of God. The soul which learns sin, not so much.

Second, you are still reading The Word of God with a seventh day adventist eye to supporting works based salvation. God is not a yo-yo. Once He births a spirit, from above, He abides in that born again spirit, IRREVOCABLY. That is the Promise of God to all who place their faith in Christ alone.

Allow me to illustrate where you are not seeing the spiritual truth: 1 John 2:5 But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him

You read that verse to say you must perfect The Word in you. John wrote that verse to help folks understand that it is GOD in you Who is at work to perfect and it is accredited to you by Grace.

I'm praying that one of these days, before the Rapture, you will stop trying to play gotcha and simply trust in Jesus alone by faith alone.

[Iscool]

You don’t believe in the Trinity, do you?

I don't believe in the Catholic trinity...I DO believe in the bible Trinity...

[Philsworld]

First, you are conflating ‘His commandments’ the two He gave for The Body of Christ Believers, with the ten commandments

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How about these commandments?

15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Any of them look familiar?

[MHGinTN]

May the Lord make His peace to come upon you and give you rest from what is assaulting your soul.

[Philsworld]

16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.