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Jehovah’s Witnesses Leader: COVID-19 Signals the “Last Day of the Last Days” rapture
Patheos ^ | 20 march | He meant mehta

Posted on 02/27/2021 1:36:09 PM PST by Cronos

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To: MHGinTN

Actually, some of the nicest people I have ever met are Evangelicals.


641 posted on 03/11/2021 12:58:50 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
Paul distinctly tells us that he knew, and that the Thessalonians knew, what that hindrance was, and that it was then in existence. The early Church, through the writings of the Fathers, tells us what it knew upon the subject, and with remarkable unanimity affirms that this "let," or hindrance, was the Roman empire as governed by the Caesars;
that while the Caesars held imperial power, it was impossible for the predicted antichrist to arise, and that on the fall of the Caesars he would arise.

I find it hard to believe that any person or group, imperial or not would have any power to dictate to the Antichrist...

642 posted on 03/11/2021 1:00:50 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN
“Today I personally believe that while Jesus came to open the door to God’s house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her own way to God.”

The current Catholic pope said that...

643 posted on 03/11/2021 1:02:44 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

If the current pope said it, he stole it from Ravi Zacharias.


644 posted on 03/11/2021 1:08:17 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

I think 2 Pet 2:2 covers it succinctly.


645 posted on 03/11/2021 1:29:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Says someone who follows false teachings and listens to fables.


646 posted on 03/11/2021 1:33:24 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

LOL, accused by a cultist.


647 posted on 03/11/2021 1:54:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Iscool

I find it hard to believe that any person or group, imperial or not would have any power to dictate to the Antichrist...


Not dictate but RESTRAIN. As long as the Roman empire was functioning, the Antichrist couldn’t assume power. Very simple.


648 posted on 03/11/2021 3:59:56 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Iscool; MHGinTN

Something both of you should think about is that the Antichrist comes from ROME. How do I know this? Daniels vision in chapter 2

31Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.

32This image’s head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,

33His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

34Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

35Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Babylon is the head of gold
Medo/Persia is the chest and arms of silver
Greece is the belly and thighs
Rome is the legs of iron and feet/toes mixed with clay
The great stone cut without hands is Jesus Christ destroying the Image at the world’s end.

The Antichrist comes from ROME.

Same scenario with the Beasts and little horn. It comes out of ROME, the 4th beast.

The Antichrist power is a religio/political extension of Pagan ROME.


649 posted on 03/11/2021 4:14:41 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Iscool; MHGinTN

It will rise to be a great power after the fall of the pagan Roman Empire (after 476 AD)
It would uproot three of the ten kingdoms the Roman Empire collapsed into
It will be a geographically small nation (a little horn)
It will rule over many people, nations and tongues (it will be universal)
It will be headquartered in the city of seven hills, Rome
It will be a religio-political entity - a political city-state ruled by a priest-king
Its priest-king will make great and blasphemous claims
It will claim authority over all kings
It will claim its power to change the holy times and laws of God as its mark of authority
It will be an apostate Church that makes the nations drink her cup of apostate doctrine
It will be a “mother” Church, with apostate daughters coming from her
It will be a persecuting power, killing the faithful saints of Jesus Christ as heretics
It will hold power and authority for 1260 years following the fall of pagan Rome
It will suffer a deadly wound that will end 1260 years of dominance and persecution
It will be revived after the deadly wound, and all the world would wonder at its revival

The bible says the Antichrist/little horn/man of sin, fits these criteria. There is only one that fits them all...The Catholic church.


650 posted on 03/11/2021 4:21:52 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Run along and ‘teach’ Cronos you beliefs..


651 posted on 03/11/2021 4:23:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

MHGinTN: “No matter what the bible says, I believe the Antichrist comes 7 years before the end of the world”


652 posted on 03/11/2021 4:26:20 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
You like trying to put your father's deceits into my name, eh cultist?

Have you never read about bearing false witness? That is precisely what you are trying to do, cultist.

653 posted on 03/11/2021 5:14:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”


654 posted on 03/11/2021 8:30:52 PM PST by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: Iscool

Muslims don’t have a Trinity.

The Catholic Trinity is God the Father, Jesus the Word of God and the Holy Spirit.

This is the Trinity accepted by Eastern Orthodox, Baptists, Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians etc.

But you reject the Trinity.

Why do you reject the Trinity?


655 posted on 03/11/2021 10:43:41 PM PST by Cronos
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To: MHGinTN

You like trying to put your father’s deceits into my name, eh cultist?

Have you never read about bearing false witness? That is precisely what you are trying to do, cultist.


Not bearing false witness. You REFUSE to acknowledge the clear word of scripture in favor of your own fantasy and I am stating that FACT. No matter how you interpret anything else in the bible, such as sin, commandment keeping, or whatever, the bible specifically gives criteria of who the Antichrist is. It is a list that can ONLY point to the Catholic church. According to Daniel and John, the Antichrist comes out of the 4th beast, WHICH IS ROME. You REFUSE to acknowledge that and instead believe your lying teachers and prophets. You REFUSE to acknowledge the Catholic church through history and especially their attempts at diverting attention at the reformer’s claims that they are the Antichrist power. And, you REFUSE to acknowledge ALL of the Protestant reformers who CLEARLY identified the Antichrist power as the Catholic church. Why won’t you just come out and say it? What are you afraid of? Ridicule by your own teachers and prophets? People on this site that believe as you do? What makes you any better at interpreting bible prophecy than those who suffered through it? Who but the Catholic church has claimed to have changed God’s law? NO ONE! Who has tortured and murdered more Protestants in history than any other entity on this earth, other the Catholic church? NO ONE! It is a FACT that you deny the truth and clear word of scripture. You are a follower of the Jesuits, Francisco Ribera and Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (have you even heard of them before I told you? Do you know what they wrote? IT’S EXACTLY WHAT YOU BELIEVE. YOU HAVE BEEN FOOLED BY THE ANTICHRIST and you can’t even see it. Worse yet, YOU DENY IT. Bearing false witness against you? DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH (LOL)

The pre trib rapture theory IS A SATANIC LIE!

It will rise to be a great power after the fall of the pagan Roman Empire (after 476 AD)
It would uproot three of the ten kingdoms the Roman Empire collapsed into
It will be a geographically small nation (a little horn)
It will rule over many people, nations and tongues (it will be universal)
It will be headquartered in the city of seven hills, Rome
It will be a religio-political entity - a political city-state ruled by a priest-king
Its priest-king will make great and blasphemous claims
It will claim authority over all kings
It will claim its power to change the holy times and laws of God as its mark of authority
It will be an apostate Church that makes the nations drink her cup of apostate doctrine
It will be a “mother” Church, with apostate daughters coming from her
It will be a persecuting power, killing the faithful saints of Jesus Christ as heretics
It will hold power and authority for 1260 years following the fall of pagan Rome
It will suffer a deadly wound that will end 1260 years of dominance and persecution
It will be revived after the deadly wound, and all the world would wonder at its revival

EVERYTHING points to the Catholic church.


656 posted on 03/11/2021 11:47:08 PM PST by Philsworld
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MHGinTN: “Nah, those were mannequins they threw down the mine shafts. Who would actually throw live persons into a mine shaft like that?”


Millions upon millions upon millions of men, woman, and children TORTURED AND MURDERED for the sole reason of being accused as HERETICS. And you STILL DENY IT!

BEARING FALSE WITNESS??? LOL, LOL, LOL!


657 posted on 03/12/2021 12:06:24 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN; Iscool

To the mods? Nah.

My question in post #608 was to Iscool and it remains to Iscool - why do you, Iscool, keep saying “the Trinity is never mentioned in the Bible”

and
“I don’t believe in the Catholic Trinity” — neglecting the fact that the Trinity of God the Father, Jesus the Word of God and the Holy Spirit is the same among Catholics, Baptists, etc. etc.

But you Iscool haven’t defined how you define the Trinity - or rather the Unitarian belief you hold. What is it?


658 posted on 03/12/2021 2:25:25 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Philsworld
Not bearing false witness. You REFUSE to acknowledge the clear word of scripture in favor of your own fantasy and I am stating that FACT. No matter how you interpret anything else in the bible, such as sin, commandment keeping, or whatever, the bible specifically gives criteria of who the Antichrist is. It is a list that can ONLY point to the Catholic church. According to Daniel and John, the Antichrist comes out of the 4th beast, WHICH IS ROME.

The Antichrist is not an idea or a system or a religion...The Antichrist is a person...I've never read where anyone thought the Catholic religion was the Antichrist...

Many of the early non Catholic churches (during the Dark Ages) were destroyed/murdered because they refused to bow down to the power of the Catholic religion, or bow down to their popes or accept Jesus' mother as the mother of God...
The KJB translators called the Catholic pope the Antichrist...

There seems to be little doubt (except among Catholics) that the Catholic religion along with the National Council of Churches, the World Council of Churches and the muzlim hoard will become the One World Religion, with the pope at its head...There is no doubt in my mind and a few others that the pope will become (IS) the false prophet...Many Catholics are taking that position as well...

659 posted on 03/12/2021 3:33:35 AM PST by Iscool
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The Antichrist is not an idea or a system or a religion...The Antichrist is a person...I’ve never read where anyone thought the Catholic religion was the Antichrist...


The Pope


660 posted on 03/12/2021 5:51:45 AM PST by Philsworld
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