[Catholic Caucus] Schneider On Vaccines: "This Is Cannibalism”

Gloria TV ^ | January 17, 2021 | Gloria TV

[Campion]

You can’t? What about the person who deliberately killed the baby?

[Campion]

While not discussing the issue of vaccines and aborted fetal cell cultures directly, this is a pretty good discussion of the basic moral theology involved.

[Campion]

A good, but long-winded, discussion from the Vatican in 2003: link.

Executive summary as I understand it: "The production of such vaccines is wrong, it's wrong to require people to use them, if you are one of the people so required and there is no better choice available to you, you don't sin by using them."

[ebb tide]

As long as people continue to accept vaccines in any way related to the abortion of children, the Mengelian science of fetal stem cell research will continue.

Here's the latest from Pfizer:

CEO of vaccine maker Moderna: ‘We’re going to live with this virus … forever’

[Campion]

Moderna isn't Pfizer, BTW.

As long as people continue to accept vaccines in any way related to the abortion of children, the Mengelian science of fetal stem cell research will continue.

"Stem cell research" isn't really the topic.

And not accepting those vaccines won't cause it to stop.

[ebb tide]

if you are one of the people so required and there is no better choice available to you, you don't sin by using them."

Thanks for that quote. And now we have a most unorthodox pope "requiring us" to receive it.

I choose to disobey and unjust order.

There are completely moral, less experimental, vaccines in the works due out later this year. I choose to wait.

[ebb tide]

But accepting it certainly will.

[ebb tide]

And not accepting those vaccines won't cause it to stop.

Sounds like something a cocaine smuggler would say.

[Campion]

Do you resort to ad hominem insults every time someone disagrees with you?

[Campion]

There are completely moral, less experimental, vaccines in the works due out later this year.

I hope so. The one that I know about is the Sanofi-Pasteur one (but I have no idea if they are going to test it using fetal cell lines). But last I heard they had run into trouble.

[ebb tide]

What ad hominem?

[Drago]

Some “non-overwrought” scientific info. on fetal cell lines and vaccines:

https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/

and

https://lozierinstitute.org/cell-lines-used-for-viral-vaccine-production/

[Campion]

Comparing me to a cocaine smuggler isn’t ad hominem?

[ebb tide]

No. It isn’t.

I compared your argument in favor of immorality to those of a drug pusher.

And don’t bother with any more sanctimonious private messages to me. They’ll be deleted before opening.

[ebb tide]

Thanks. But I think Archbishop Vigano and Bishop Schneider have the correct position from a Catholic morality perspective.

I understand we are in the minority. And I accept it.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

You can’t? What about the person who deliberately killed the baby?

They are both equally certain.