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To: Fawn

“You think Jesus went voluntarily? I didn’t realize he had a choice.... People get mad at me, but I believe we have somewhat of a cruel God....not Jesus...jus God. He always so much pain, suffering, cruelty....for innocents. Just always bothered me..”

God had a choice from the very beginning of Creation. He could make independent beings who would sin or He could not. If He made them, He’d have to die for them to save them. That is when the choice for Jesus’ death occurred and the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all agreed, before Creation.

All time is laid out before God. He sees every choice and alternative by every creature. He exists in all time simultaneously. This is so far beyond us it’s barely imaginable.

We see the cruelty and pain of sin. Sin comes from freedom of choice. With no freedom of choice there is no sin, but also no salvation. All the pain is worth it for the eternal salvation of mankind.

Personally, I believe God Himself feels every pain every person suffers. That is speculation on my part, based on His omniscience.


22 posted on 01/18/2021 6:11:33 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
We see the cruelty and pain of sin.

Every day i see tons of animals suffering, alot I personally care or have cared for. HOw is that sin? Animals can't sin. I also see alot of poor people trying to make it ... living in crime infested areas and so poor....so many other them still praise God for...and are good people. How are they sinners?? If you think about it, look what GOd did to his own son...Jesus? I see too much and suffer with heartbreaks and unnecessary suffering almost every single day...

29 posted on 01/18/2021 4:30:09 PM PST by Fawn ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6)
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