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To: chajin

So you’re claiming everyone who has been baptized is saved?

That’s the first I ever heard of that. But it explains Luther’s “Sin, and let your sins be bold”.


20 posted on 01/02/2021 6:47:51 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I Peter 3:21.

Also consider 1263 of the Catholic Catechism:

“By Baptism all sins are forgiven, original sin and all personal sins, as well as all punishment for sin. In those who have been reborn nothing remains that would impede their entry into the Kingdom of God, neither Adam’s sin, nor personal sin, nor the consequences of sin, the gravest of which is separation from God.”

Hell is separation from God, which cannot happen to a baptized person according to the Catechism.


28 posted on 01/02/2021 6:59:04 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: ebb tide; chajin; noiseman; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ...
So you’re claiming everyone who has been baptized is saved?

That is because you are not a Catholic in submission to the living duly elected pope and consistent with Vatican 2 (note the latter teaching "is saved/regenerated" is not saying necessarily will be). Who knows what pope you think was the last valid one, since you do not tell us. But now that Catholic forums has shut down then you has one less V2 site to war with.

"there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. (Cf. Jn. 16:13) They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ," "they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power," (LUMEN GENTIUM: 16)

those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church," (CCC 838)

"All who have been justified by Faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ: they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church," (Dominus Iesus

77 posted on 01/03/2021 12:43:34 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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