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Conflans attack: why the Pantin mosque is strongly criticized
l'express.fr ^ | 10/19/2020 | Par LEXPRESS.fr

Posted on 10/19/2020 7:30:56 PM PDT by xomething

The Pantin mosque has apologized for broadcasting the video of the father angry with the beheaded professor on Friday. Gérald Darmanin wants it closed. Since the broadcast of a video of the father of the family who wanted the exclusion of Samuel Paty, this professor of history and geography beheaded for showing caricatures of Mohammed in class in Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, the mosque of Pantin is under the critics fire. Indeed, the latter posted on her Facebook page the video of the angry student's parent who targets the teacher. She has since expressed regret.

This Monday evening, Gérald Darmanin announced that he had asked the prefect of Seine-Saint-Denis to close the mosque. "I asked the prefect of Seine-Saint-Denis to close the Pantin mosque," said the Minister of the Interior on TF1, specifying that the prefect had to "sign his ban this (Monday) evening".

At Liberation, M'hammed Henniche, the president of the association which manages the future place of worship, explains that he received the video via about ten people and that it "circulated a lot, in particular through WhatsApp groups". Removed from the Facebook account of the Pantin mosque, this video would not have disturbed him in relation to the cartoons, but vis-à-vis the fact that "children of the Republic are being asked to leave a class" .

M'hammed Henniche insists by explaining to franceinfo that "it is not the cartoons that shocked us but when we see in this school that we say: 'You are Muslims, raise your finger', that's shocking, that cannot work. " According to testimonies, the teacher had instead suggested that the students leave (the classroom) so as not to shock them.

"It was all the years that he did this," said AFP Virginie, 15, who knew the teacher. "It was on the program for the EMC (moral and civic education, editor's note). It was to talk about freedom in relation to the Charlie Hebdo attack thathe showed these images, the caricatures," says the young girl , who specifies that this year, "It has taken on more importance".

In the political sphere, the distribution of the video by the Pantin mosque has raised criticism, in particular from Bruno Retailleau. On Twitter, Senator LR from Vendée called on the State "to be very firm and to close this mosque which despises our values".

Regrets of the rector of the mosque

But the rector of the mosque has declared "to regret" having shared this video which, according to him, did not however make "any call to hatred, and no call against this teacher". "In retrospect, given what happened we regret having published it. We are seeing how in the future to take a step back before getting carried away on things like that", he further declared.

However, according to the anti-terrorist prosecutor, Jean-François Ricard, the video posted was "accompanied by a text on his Facebook account in which he designated the professor by name, gave the address of the college and urged to 'say stop'". .

And if M'hammed Henniche, secretary general of the Union of Muslim associations of Seine-Saint-Denis, knows Abdelhakim Sefrioui, the Islamist activist in custody who accompanied the father to make expel the teacher from the college , he claims to have had no contact with the latter since 2012. "He had threatened to come and demonstrate in front of the mosque because I had taken part in a trip to Israel," he told Liberation.

Since then, the mosque's Facebook account has firmly condemned the Conflans-Sainte-Honorine attack: "We strongly condemn this savagery, Islam and its teaching categorically condemn such acts. Our solidarity with the family of the victim , students and teachers. " She also called for participation in the tribute rallies to the victim organized on Sunday. (google translate)


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam
KEYWORDS: france; islam
Attentat de Conflans : pourquoi la mosquée de Pantin est vivement critiquée

La mosquée de Pantin s'est excusée d'avoir diffusé la vidéo du père de famille en colère contre le professeur décapité vendredi. Gérald Darmanin souhaite sa fermeture. Depuis la diffusion d'une vidéo du père de famille qui souhaitait l'exclusion de Samuel Paty, ce professeur d'histoire géographie décapité pour avoir montré des caricatures de Mahomet en classe à Conflans-Sainte-Honorine, la mosquée de Pantin est sous le feu des critiques. En effet, cette dernière a diffusé sur sa page Facebook la vidéo du parent d'élève en colère qui cible l'enseignant. Elle a depuis exprimé des regrets.

Ce lundi soir, Gérald Darmanin a annoncé avoir demandé au préfet de Seine-Saint-Denis de fermer la mosquée. "J'ai demandé au préfet de Seine-Saint-Denis de faire fermer la mosquée de Pantin", a déclaré le ministre de l'Intérieur sur TF1, précisant que le préfet devait "signer ce (lundi) soir son interdiction".

A Libération, M'hammed Henniche, le président de l'association qui gère le futur lieu de culte explique avoir reçu la vidéo via une dizaine de personnes et qu'elle "circulait beaucoup, notamment à travers des groupes WhatsApp". Retirée du compte Facebook de la mosquée de Pantin, cette vidéo ne l'aurait pas dérangé par rapport aux caricatures, mais vis-à-vis du fait que "l'on demande à des enfants de la République de sortir d'une classe".

M'hammed Henniche insiste en expliquant à franceinfo que "ce ne sont pas les caricatures qui nous ont choqués mais quand on voit dans cette école qu'on dit : 'Vous êtes musulmans, levez le doigt', ça c'est choquant, ça ne peut pas fonctionner." D'après les témoignages, l'enseignant avait plutôt proposé aux élèves de sortir afin de ne pas les choquer.

"C'était toutes les années qu'il faisait cela", souligne à l'AFP Virginie, 15 ans, qui a connu l'enseignant. "C'était au programme pour l'EMC (enseignement moral et civique, ndlr). C'était pour parler de la liberté par rapport à l'attentat de Charlie Hebdo, il montrait ces images, les caricatures", affirme la jeune fille, qui précise que cette année, "Ça a pris plus d'ampleur".

Dans la sphère politique, la diffusion de la vidéo par la mosquée de Pantin a soulevé des critiques, notamment de la part de Bruno Retailleau. Sur Twitter, le sénateur LR de Vendée a appelé l'Etat "à la plus grande fermeté et à fermer cette mosquée qui méprise nos valeurs".

Regrets du recteur de la mosquée Mais le recteur de la mosquée a déclaré "regretter" avoir partagé cette vidéo qui, selon lui, ne faisait toutefois "aucun appel à la haine, et aucun appel contre cet enseignant". "A posteriori, vu ce qu'il s'est passé on regrette de l'avoir publiée. On est en train de voir comment à l'avenir prendre un peu de recul avant de s'emballer sur des choses comme ça", déclare-t-il encore.

Toutefois selon le procureur anti-terroriste, Jean-François Ricard, la vidéo postée était bien "accompagnée d'un texte sur son compte Facebook dans lequel il désignait nommément le professeur, donnait l'adresse du collège et incitait à 'dire stop'".

Et si M'hammed Henniche, secrétaire général de l'Union des associations musulmanes de Seine-Saint-Denis, connaît Abdelhakim Sefrioui, le militant islamiste placé en garde à vue qui a accompagné le père de famille pour faire exclure l'enseignant du collège, il affirme n'avoir plus de contact depuis 2012 avec ce dernier. "Il avait menacé de venir manifester devant la mosquée car j'avais participé à un voyage en Israël", raconte-t-il à Libération.

Depuis, le compte Facebook de la mosquée a fermement condamné l'attentat de Conflans-Sainte-Honorine : "Nous condamnons avec force cette sauvagerie, l'islam et son enseignement réprouvent catégoriquement de tels actes. Toute notre solidarité à la famille de la victime, aux élèves et au corps enseignant." Elle a également appelé à participer aux rassemblements d'hommage à la victime organisés dimanche. (original)

1 posted on 10/19/2020 7:30:56 PM PDT by xomething
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Samuel Paty
2 posted on 10/19/2020 7:32:28 PM PDT by xomething
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Samuel Paty
3 posted on 10/19/2020 7:32:29 PM PDT by xomething
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No habla there newby.


4 posted on 10/19/2020 7:33:01 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Why can't we just get into the running car?)
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IN an earlier age, when the Gauls had a little more civilizational self-confidence, all of the Moors involved even peripherally might have been guillotined. Today, they close a mosque, while will undoubtedly reopen at a new address at some future time.


5 posted on 10/19/2020 7:44:33 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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In the back of the mosque they probably celebrated by screwing a goat or two to honor moe-ham-head.


6 posted on 10/19/2020 7:46:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (The panic will end, the tyranny will not)
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To: xomething

Do we have a big following in France???

Took Latin in high school. Wish I took a year of French to understand how they pronounced stuff!


7 posted on 10/19/2020 7:57:13 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Zhang Fei
IN an earlier age, when the Gauls had a little more civilizational self-confidence, all of the Moors involved even peripherally might have been guillotined. Today, they close a mosque, while will undoubtedly reopen at a new address at some future time.

Partner, you are exactly right on the Gauls.

The Mooselimb religion is a Gutter Religion.

Mohammad copied every Jewish custom in the book.

8 posted on 10/19/2020 7:59:50 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas..)
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Is there a version of this story translated into English?


9 posted on 10/19/2020 8:12:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Wrong on the last statement. Jesus was a Jew. A Torah observant Jew who walked in the fullness of the Commandments. Muhammed himself lined up 600 Jewish men and cut their heads off in front of their screaming wives and children, who were then raped, and made slaves. Islam is an anti-Torah, God hating religion. It is dominated and moved by the spirit of Amalek. Despite The many efforts of those Muslims who wish to reform it, at its inception it embodied a primordial energy of Irrational Hatred. This is why the Left feels a penchant for it. They share the spirit of Amalek.


10 posted on 10/19/2020 8:39:42 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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Wrong on the last statement. Jesus was a Jew. A Torah observant Jew who walked in the fullness of the Commandments. Muhammed himself lined up 600 Jewish men and cut their heads off in front of their screaming wives and children, who were then raped, and made slaves. Islam is an anti-Torah, God hating religion. It is dominated and moved by the spirit of Amalek. Despite The many efforts of those Muslims who wish to reform it, at its inception it embodied a primordial energy of Irrational Hatred. This is why the Left feels a penchant for it. They share the spirit of Amalek.

Partner, we know that Jesus was a Jew. We know the Mooselimbs are Anti-Torah and the Mooselimb religion is a hating religion. I do not know how we can change these facts. Also, the Mooselimbs are a gutter religion.

11 posted on 10/19/2020 9:59:01 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas..)
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