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To: safisoft
So much is wrong with what you posted, not the least of which is the thinly veiled anti-Semitism.

I won't pander to your political correctness. I spoke the truth. You accusing me of thinly veiled anti-Semitism is something the anti-Defamation League or Uncle Leo would say - but it's a damned lie!

There are many Orthodox Jew in Israel that secretly believe that Jesus is Messiah so your comment is slanderous to them, as well as to Religious Jews everywhere - if you want to understand why do a little research on how the Nazis used Martin Luther's work ...

As I mentioned in my post, Nicodemus was a Pharasee who was a believer. I don't need you to tell me that there is a diffeence between anti-Christ Orthodox Jews and Messianic Jews!

As for Pharisees, you need to take it up with Paul, the Pharisee

No, I don't! Paul is my favorite preacher/teacher rabbi if you will. Yes, I know he was raised a Pharasee. He also understood that their is no salvation in the Law or Moses - there is no salvation in the practice of the Pharasees - there is no salvation in the practice of the Sadducees. Anti not only means "against" it also means "in place of". There is no salvation, justification, holiness, redemption - in Orthodox Judaism or any other religion.

The Pharasees and Sadducees hated Jesus because He told them the truth. If I'm hated for speaking the truth - then like Jesus, Paul and others who were hated by anti-Christ Pharasees and Sadducees (anti-Christ Orthodox Jews) - I'm in good company!

36 posted on 10/17/2020 4:59:41 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Yes, I know he was raised a Pharasee. He also understood that their is no salvation in the Law or Moses - there is no salvation in the practice of the Pharasees - there is no salvation in the practice of the Sadducees. Anti not only means "against" it also means "in place of". There is no salvation, justification, holiness, redemption - in Orthodox Judaism or any other religion.

Paul wasn’t speaking in past tense in Acts 26:5. He was giving his resume, just like he does again to the Jewish elders in Rome in Acts 28. Paul remained a Pharisee. Read Acts 21-22 SLOWLY.

With regard to salvation, you are projecting Reformation’s Protestant/Catholic polemics on Jews. Jews have NEVER believed that keeping the Law earns salvation. Jesus’ disciples did not switch religions with a formulaic mantra. Ask a Jew, in any era, how one has a place in the World to Come, and the answer you will get will get in simple language is by God’s gracious choice, and with faith.

As for Messianic Jews, that is not what I was referring to. There are many, many, practicing Orthodox Jews who secretly believe Jesus is Messiah. They aren’t “Christians” and they aren’t “Messianic Jews” they are Orthodox Jews, and would claim the Prushin (Pharisees) as their forefathers - so I guess you would hate these brothers and sisters like “the Pharisees” because you can’t read the Bible outside your perverted perspective on God’s chosen people.
37 posted on 10/17/2020 5:37:47 PM PDT by safisoft
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