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The Gap Between Church and Synagogue...Noahide error
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/the-gap-between-church-and-synagogue-noahide/ ^ | 10-15-20 | Bill Randles

Posted on 10/15/2020 4:57:09 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

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1 posted on 10/15/2020 4:57:09 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

Jesus said, “Go and sin no more.” I think the problem today is that too many think all is forgiven & that they don’t have to repent of sin & change their ways.


2 posted on 10/15/2020 5:11:03 PM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
‘John 6:63 (ESV): It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all.” Faith in mammon can never save only Jesus can save. Reject that and perish. It is what it is.
3 posted on 10/15/2020 5:11:35 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: pastorbillrandles

Bkmk


4 posted on 10/15/2020 5:12:26 PM PDT by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
It's only an error if you assume the truth of chrstianity from the outset, which the OP and most chrstians do.

This is what happens when you raise children up from the cradle in a religion but insist they they cannot be members until they are converted as adults. Such people don't have to be talked into believing the religion because they already do. It also means that simply do not know how to engage in argumentation to prove their religion. They assume everyone else was born "knowing chrstianity is true" and all one has to do is quote enough NT verses and eventually electricity will start running up and down their spine.

I am so grateful that the truth of Torah/Noachism is based on absolute factual certitude making mere "faith" unnecessary.

5 posted on 10/15/2020 5:31:25 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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Moses destroyed the first draft (Written By God/Angel of the Lord Himself) as a loud as well as clear message and God allowed the Romans to run roughshod over your Holy of Holies (Several years after Jesus made that whole Temple irrelevant)I prefer listening to God instead of just waiting for God because “It” has been finished for awhile yet the Torah worshipers are still lingering in the wilderness.


6 posted on 10/15/2020 5:53:40 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: pastorbillrandles

Oh, Sinai! Thats where G-d said that Jesus would come and upend the Torah.... oh, never mind.

Imagine a perfect vase or clay vessel. You don’t understand its depth and beauty but its guardians tell you the Creator of the World gave it to us.

You think you’ll make a few renovations and lump your clay right on top of it.

Feh. It is you that have the scales over your eyes, as you accuse us Jews— like projecting liberals I might add. Its exactly what you do yet you can’t see it! How tragically poetic!

Everyone, indeed, go to Rabbi Tovia Singer’s site outreachjudaism.org. better yet send your pastors, priests (not that pastors believe that a billion Catholics will be saved) and lay leaders there. Best a Jew in what the Torah says. Rather you may see the real glory.

You’re wrong, by the way, Pastor, about the Jews’ importance on Moshiach. It is everything— it’s G-d’s ultimate plan and desire— a redeemed world. And it ain’t through Jesus.

We keep track. We count. (C’mon...Jews!) We know who are the actual living sons-after-son of King David. We are the REAL ones we’ve been waiting for— to ironically borrow from liberals again.

The more your former religionists sought and seek to understand G-d’s Torah, the brighter the truth shines on them. Ah! Its great to serve Him through works, ie, nothing other than His Torah. It is our life and our length of days.

FReepers, America’s future is with Torah-observant Jews and Noahide believers in G-d and His Torah.

Noahide.org

Or try http://tenaktalk.com/ for testimony from your fellows who were brave enough to go deep. To go Old School. To go all the way back and to start learning the Torah from the Jews. I invite you to grab the hem of my shirt right now in Coral Springs, FL (recognizable by my long pharisseic tassles) and fulfill the prophecy of Zacharia today! (I invited some Mormons who came to my door but they ran away. Are the Protestants and Catholics any braver?)


7 posted on 10/15/2020 5:54:35 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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Is your Messiah coming on a donkey or the clouds of Heaven (Hint; We are all unworthy but also justified, riddle me that Torah worshiper that you can't keep)?
8 posted on 10/15/2020 6:06:57 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: pastorbillrandles

20th-century Made up religion...

But it’s a free country.


9 posted on 10/15/2020 6:11:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: rollo tomasi

Poor grammar.

Its a metaphor for whether we merit a part in the redemption, or whether it comes on its own. Which part do you want to play?


10 posted on 10/15/2020 6:17:03 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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Zechariah and Daniel beg to differ; worthy or unworthy but their is a literal catch.

Also, I thought Torah worshipers hated Nazis.
11 posted on 10/15/2020 6:29:48 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: pastorbillrandles

There is no “original sin” in Judaism, and Jews are not in fear of “being saved”. Also, one is responsible for one’s own sins. The idea of a corporeal god-son taking sin and self sacrificing is, as I understand, totally alien and contrary to God in Judaism.

(And if Jesus was the son of God, but also God, how could he be killed unless he chose that ending for himself? For isn’t God all powerful and all knowing? )


12 posted on 10/15/2020 6:38:45 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: rollo tomasi

Maybe your understanding of the Hebrew is rusty?

https://youtu.be/eok1b56WWNA

I cant see where I implied G-d fearing Torah-observant Jews don’t “hate” NAZIs


13 posted on 10/15/2020 6:44:11 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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How could a god be “all-knowing”/perfect without being self-aware/possess cognizant apitude? God made humans above the animals after all (Let US make man...) and also judges them. I thought Torah worshipers prided themselves on intellectualism. Is your god confined to physics/time/space and is ignorant on a most precious creation that “it”, by default mind and all rationality mind you, judges unrighteously?


14 posted on 10/15/2020 6:54:08 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: rollo tomasi

Only God knows ;-)


15 posted on 10/15/2020 6:59:37 PM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Phinneous

Was the donkey unbroken or even stolen (The Lord needs them” was stated), lol? If so would require the mommy to be there. Also does your overlord know the weight of Jesus, he never went there or if the donkey was broken in? Very important as far as Mathew writes about.


16 posted on 10/15/2020 7:19:07 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: captain_dave

Too True ;-)


17 posted on 10/15/2020 7:20:04 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: pastorbillrandles
Here is a brief treatment of three tremendous chasms which exist between Judaism as it stands today and Christianity- Judaism emphatically denies the need for an atoning sacrifice- especially a blood sacrifice. I have heard Rabbis such as Michaell Skobac of Jews for Judaism, and Tovia Singer among others, emphatically deny the need for any sacrifice whatsoever.

I'd like to know how they get around specific passages that DO emphatically say that without the shedding of blood there is NO atonement for the soul (e.g., Leviticus 17:11?

18 posted on 10/15/2020 7:34:55 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Who is Matthew? And did he pick up Jesus to weigh him?

Overlord? Are you referring to Rabbi Singer?

“Mommy?” Is that the zoological word?

I think you’re feeling upset. Keep up with the good questions though. I need to agitate to try to get you to dig deeper than a modernization of a translation of a translation of a translation. Seeing the picture?


19 posted on 10/15/2020 7:39:46 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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Quote’I’d like to know how they get around specific passages that DO emphatically say that without the shedding of blood there is NO atonement for the soul (e.g., Leviticus 17:11?’

One can suspect if they didn’t have a couple mosques to get around, the shedding of blood would not be ignored in the heart of the earth, Jerusalem.


20 posted on 10/15/2020 7:41:38 PM PDT by delchiante
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