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To: Oneanddone; Mark17

So I take it you aren’t saved and have no assurance of salvation??

That’s on you.

I won’t reason with a closed mind.

I do have salvation and assurance, like so many here.

“For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day.”

“Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

“He made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.…“

“And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

“He that hath the Son *hath life*; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may *know* that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”

In His secure hand, sealed to the day the rest of me will be redeemed, made alive in Christ, and positionally seated in the heavenlies with Christ!

Thanks be to God for His indescribable Gift!!


112 posted on 10/11/2020 9:23:19 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
So I take it you aren’t saved and have no assurance of salvation??

I would venture to guess, that most of the time, if someone has no assurance of salvation at all, I would say they might not have any hope whatsoever, and may very well, spend a ton of time in the Lake of Fire. 🔥 That is their choice, however. Why would anyone deliberately choose to go to the Lake of Fire? I will never understand it. 🤗

113 posted on 10/11/2020 9:42:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Considering that the crop of FRomans—at least the ones we contend with—have to argue against strawmen in order to try to defend their beliefs, of course they need closed minds.


116 posted on 10/11/2020 10:56:13 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Amen! Thanks be to God.


142 posted on 10/11/2020 8:48:22 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Those obedient to God, those “faithful unto death” Rev 2:10 have the assurance of salvation. The disobedient have assurance of being lost.

It seems those who follow Luther’s ‘faith only’ are desperate to find a way for the disobedient person to FIRST be saved, THEN AFTER he is saved he can obey. Yet such a thing is not found in the NT.

They seem to be operating under the fallacy that obedience to God is an attempt to earn salvation when that idea has been debunked. Again, in all of the examples in the Bible of men/women obeying God, NOT ONE TIME is their obedience said to be earning God’s free gift. People must be imagining that idea into the Bible.


163 posted on 10/12/2020 9:43:46 AM PDT by Oneanddone
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