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To: Hieronymus; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; MamaB; ...
. Jerome’s ...his skill as an interpreter of texts,

Without negating accomplishments as a translator, his skill as an interpreter of texts includes his eisegesis in forcing Scripture to support his imbalanced view on virginity versus marriage such as in asserting:

If ‘it is good for a man not to touch a woman,’ then it is bad for him to touch one, for bad, and bad only, is the opposite of good.   (''Letter'' 22).  

 
In "Against Jovinianus," book 1, on First Corinthians 7 he gain perversely reasons,  
 
“It is good,” he says, “for a man not to touch a woman.” If it is good not to touch a woman, it is bad to touch one: for there is no opposite to goodness but badness. But if it be bad and the evil is pardoned, the reason for the concession is to prevent worse evil. But surely a thing which is only allowed because there may be something worse has only a slight degree of goodness...
 
Just as though one were to lay it down: “It is good to feed on wheaten bread, and to eat the finest wheat flour,” and yet to prevent a person pressed by hunger from devouring cow-dung, I may allow him to eat barley. Does it follow that the wheat will not have its peculiar purity, because such an one prefers barley to excrement?..
 
If we abstain from intercourse, we give honour to our wives: if we do not abstain, it is clear that insult is the opposite of honour. 
 
Then we have another false dilemma:

"If we are to pray always, it follows that we must never be in the bondage of wedlock, for as often as I render my wife her due, I cannot pray. 

And then there is this wresting of Scripture to serve his purpose:

This too we must observe, at least if we would faithfully follow the Hebrew, that while Scripture on the first, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth days relates that, having finished the works of each, “God saw that it was good,” on the second day it omitted this altogether, leaving us to understand that two is not a good number because it destroys unity, and prefigures the marriage compact. Hence it was that all the animals which Noah took into the ark by pairs were unclean. Odd numbers denote cleanness. And yet by the double number is represented another mystery: that not even in beasts and unclean birds is second marriage approved.

So much for 2 x 2 evangelism, while "if we would faithfully follow the Hebrew" we see that "God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Genesis 1:31) 

Jerome further vainly attempts to make Genesis support him  in asserting:
 
The command to increase and multiply first finds fulfilment after the expulsion from paradise, after the nakedness and the fig-leaves which speak of sexual passion.    (St. Jerome, Against Jovinianus Book 1 https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf206.vi.vi.I.html)
 
Yet besides the fact that nowhere are the fig-leaves shown to  speak of sexual passion, the command to  increase and multiply came before the Fall and its later fulfillment:
 
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:27-28)

See more here, by the grace of God, before responding.

11 posted on 10/01/2020 7:02:55 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
St. Augustine wasn't too far from that, as you'll recall.

St. Jerome's invective against some of his enemies isn't very admirable, either.

Just because someone is a canonized saint doesn't mean they were always correct, or always perfect, or that they didn't have opinions of their own, good, bad, or indifferent. The Apostles were sinners, too, and admitted as much.

12 posted on 10/01/2020 7:40:46 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: daniel1212

I saw here.

I’d be more interested in a page on quotes from the OT consoling those who are childless.

Both states can be gifts from God—if one is given the higher state, take it—he who marries his virgin does well, he who does not does better.

I could go on, but I would spare you this.


13 posted on 10/01/2020 11:36:11 AM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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