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[Barf Alert] Catholics demanding Communion on the tongue a threat to public health, says priest
The Irish Times ^ | September 17, 2020 | Patsy McGarry

Posted on 09/20/2020 7:13:46 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Barf Alert] Catholics demanding Communion on the tongue a threat to public health, says priest

Bishops advised ‘there must be limits to appeasement’ in dealings with alt-right views

A Waterford priest has criticised as selfish the behaviour of Catholics who demand Communion on the tongue despite Covid-19 restrictions.

Fr Liam Power, former communications officer with the diocese of Waterford and Lismore, said such people did not seem to “respect the danger this represented to others” and were a cause of “very serious embarrassment for priests, many of whom are elderly”.

While the number making such demands was “not huge, reports were fairly consistent from parishes across the country”, he said. It was also the case that people involved were “not open to negotiation”.

Fr Power referred to an incident in a Waterford church recently.

“One member of the congregation crossed from one section of the church, climbing over a barrier separating the two pods of 50, and then demanded Holy Communion on the tongue.”

The priest refused.

“It was an embarrassing situation as the congregation witnessed this stand-off during a most sacred moment of the service. When challenged afterwards, the person refuted the constitutionality of the Covid-19 regulations, inferring that the right to religious liberty was being undermined.”

A similar incident happened involving an elderly priest with underlying health issues. He too refused.

“In neither of these incidents was any concern shown by the protesters for the health and safety of others. Priests and other communicants could have been exposed to Covid infection,” Fr Power said.

‘Aggression’

More generally, he referred to the “aggression” of such people and their growth across the Catholic world, with a seeming determination “to undermine Vatican II and remove Pope Francis. It’s the first time in my lifetime I ever heard of a campaign to remove a Pope from within the Church. It’s very unsettling for Catholics,” he said.

He agreed with those who felt that attention given to such ultra-right groups by Church authorities in Ireland as elsewhere was now “reaping a bitter whirlwind”.

Fr Power recalled how, when Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin attended Eid celebrations in Croke Park last July, “he was met with screaming protestors, his car surrounded and banged on, and people shouting traitor and other abuse”.

There was also the recent “torrent of abuse hurled at Fr Stephen Farragher, parish priest of Ballyhaunis in Co Mayo, during protests at his decision to allow two members of the Muslim community to say the final blessing and prayer at a Sunday ceremony in the church”.

“The blessing was planned to show solidarity with frontline workers and to pray for the eradication of Covid-19.”

It was the case that such people also “oppose vaccines and refuse to wear masks and they wantonly contravene other HSE guidelines”, he said.

Their “toxic politico-religious cocktail” was “symptomatic of what is happening on a more global level, particularly in the USA”.

“Extreme alt-right media groups claiming total fidelity to the Catholic church (such as Church Militant, Lifesite News, Breitbart and the most influential of all Catholic media, EWTN), are unabashedly partisan in their support for extreme right wing politics,” Fr Power said.

Where Ireland’s Catholic bishops were concerned, Fr Power felt that “in their attempt to accommodate the alt-right Catholics the hierarchy need to appreciate the political implications of extreme views which, in my opinion, serve to undermine the pontificate of Pope Francis”.

“There must be limits to appeasement.”


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More generally, he referred to the “aggression” of such people and their growth across the Catholic world, with a seeming determination “to undermine Vatican II and remove Pope Francis.

VC II never allowed Holy Communion in the Paw. let alone make it mandatory.

“Extreme alt-right media groups claiming total fidelity to the Catholic church (such as Church Militant, Lifesite News, Breitbart and the most influential of all Catholic media, EWTN), are unabashedly partisan in their support for extreme right wing politics,” Fr Power said.

1 posted on 09/20/2020 7:13:46 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: DIRTYSECRET

just like the rest of them


3 posted on 09/20/2020 7:19:19 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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Ping


4 posted on 09/20/2020 7:23:23 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t recall any description of the Last Supper where Christ put a host on the Apostles tongues. It was unleavened bread, just as Jews share every Passover. It was a Church hierarchy who decided that we, made in the image and likeness of Christ, were somehow unworthy of touching the Body that He gave to us.


5 posted on 09/20/2020 8:23:42 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

The way you refer to Jesus. Like he’s your pal. Is it not important to demonstrate reverence?


6 posted on 09/20/2020 8:30:01 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: T.B. Yoits

I don’t recall any description of Christ placing His Precious Body in the paws of His apostles.

Do you have a source?


7 posted on 09/20/2020 8:39:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Gotta hand it to them. They’re coming out swinging. Trying to claim the moral and scientific high ground and then dig in for a fight. Rather than jump in and fight the battle they want to fight, we should call in close air support from AB Viganó. That should soften them up a bit.


8 posted on 09/20/2020 8:43:38 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: T.B. Yoits

Did you know Jesus Christ spit and then touched a deaf and dumb man with His fingers on the man’s tongue and ears, thus healing him?

Did you know Jesus Christ spit upon the dirt, made mud and then cured a blind man by wiping it on the man’s eyes?


9 posted on 09/20/2020 8:45:38 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

I think it’s a guilt complex and they’re trying to defend the sacrilege of Holy Communion in the paw, instituted by a few apostate european bishops after VC II and now entrenched in the “New Pentecost” church.


10 posted on 09/20/2020 8:52:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“I don’t recall any description of Christ placing His Precious Body in the paws of His apostles.”

I don’t believe Jesus had manufactured “wafers” from a box to pass around to his disciples. He broke simple unleavened bread with his hands and passed it to the disciples, who handled the bread with their “paws”. Much worse things would soon happen to His earthly body than sharing bread with His followers.

Jesus touched many sinful people during His ministry that others would have nothing to do with - the sinful, the sick, and the dying. None of these people could defile him. Rather, he healed them.

The first symbolic sacraments used earthly things (bread, wine) to represent heavenly things as a remembrance for the coming church. This first communion also took place in a mundane, earthly room, not an ornate cathedral. Jesus’ body was not a heavenly body yet, but an earthly one. He lived with his imperfect, human disciples and was not offended or defiled by doing so.


11 posted on 09/20/2020 10:15:24 PM PDT by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
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To: ebb tide

It’s the body of Christ — the left trying to make The Eucharist tainted... are the same people speaking out against moslems worshipping in their mosques.. it’s always the Christians that they target...


12 posted on 09/21/2020 4:16:46 AM PDT by Patriot_MP (Of the Troops, For the Troops - US of A Always. Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ebb tide

This guy generalizes and lumps different groups and beliefs all together. No way is EWTN “extremly right wing” whereas CM and LifeSite News are definitely harmful to the Church with their exaggerations and convoluted, negative approach.


13 posted on 09/21/2020 11:50:02 AM PDT by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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