Where is the Conciliar Church defined, Murph?
Why are you playing childish word games...? Do you not understand the Church has ALWAYS been defined by councils? Councils that were necessary to maintain the Faith in the battles against heresies? Every Council built upon the one before it..... and Vatican 3 will someday do the same...... so why is conciliar and Church so offending to be in the same sentence together? It is what it is...and.... its HOW the Church has made it to 2020...
Do I need to print the list again? Why are you pretending the 20 or so councils does not exist or did not happen prior to the 1960s? You would make a good democrat with your ability to pretend something other than the reality that is staring you in the face.