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Mary and Jesus More Closely Related than we may have Thought.. Holy DNA !
Defenders of the Catholic Faith Ministry ^ | 8-21-2020 | Steve Ray

Posted on 08/26/2020 1:41:57 PM PDT by MurphsLaw

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To: ebb tide
The Blessed Mother is praying to God for us sinners.

Then you can easily show the words; right?

241 posted on 08/28/2020 5:48:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
But you haven’t responded to, “mother of my Lord” being in the Bible.

Is there REALLY a need to do so?

242 posted on 08/28/2020 5:49:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
See! I 'presumed' things were typed rite when I clicked POST
243 posted on 08/28/2020 5:51:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

OOps; I missed the first ‘brother’.

Once again, I presumed that what I posted was what I wanted to post.


244 posted on 08/28/2020 5:53:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

(The elsiethon moves on...)


245 posted on 08/28/2020 5:54:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
I read the article. It's not the first time the subject's come up on this site, either. Obviously, the child shares the parent's DNA genetic properties ...

You may have READ the article, but you clearly did not understand its import.... And I understand the knee jerk need to deflect and obfuscate God's plan for Mary or Isaiah 7:14 as just a "woman" who said yes- but you have missed the point.

The Article IS NOT ABOUT DNA !!
Yes shared cellular structure obviously exists in offspring coded by dna. - But the medical tech of the article is focused on the discovery whereby LIVING CELLS are exchanged between pregnant Mother and her Baby throughout the pregnancy.

Draw your own conclusions- or denials, but for The Blessed Virgin Mary to carry around living cells from the Christ Child within her- and Assumed into Heaven (As even Luther preached) with those cells from Christ through bringing the Savior into this world- (full circle?).... well that's just pretty dang interesting for those who Love Mary, the Queen of Heaven, who is there for us- as she was for God. (In spite of not bein able to find "living fetal cell transfer of pregnancy" in the Bible)

246 posted on 08/28/2020 7:55:36 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen”)
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To: Elsie
(love and latch onto)N

Yes, as Christ told us... !

+++" BEHOLD YOUR MOTHER..."+++

247 posted on 08/28/2020 7:59:55 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen”)
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To: MurphsLaw

As Christ told JOHN.

Are you John the Apostle? No? Then Mary wasn’t given to you.


248 posted on 08/28/2020 8:49:48 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: boatbums

I really do not understand the Catholic obsession with Mary, especially with the way they strip all the humanity out of her. No real emotions. No real point of connection. Just an otherworldly illusion of serenity that’s impossible to relate to. Might as well be a statue with how statue-like they made her!

Contrast Jesus, who got angry or wept. Who begged the Father to let the cup pass from him. Who was tempted in every way I was tempted. Who suffered and bled and died. Who is completely HUMAN as well as being LORD.

Jesus is so much more relatable. It’s so much easier to talk to Christ than some faux vision of perfection that bears no resemblence to what God’s perfection really is.


249 posted on 08/28/2020 8:58:03 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
As Christ told JOHN.

No I'm not John silly, that would be weird.
But what is Christ actually saying to John - and how is he saying it ?

"Behold-- THY Mother"

"Consider a few well-known passages in the King James Version in which the word “behold” is used, and mentally substitute for it the phrase “Listen, because this is very important”:

***"Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel” (Isaiah 7:14).***

“And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, ,behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord” (Luke 2:10-11).

“And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee” (Matthew 9:2).

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me” (Revelation 3:20).

You seeing it yet?

250 posted on 08/28/2020 9:28:40 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen”)
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To: MurphsLaw

Uh, dude?

The KJV isn’t the original text of the Gospel of John.

The simple fact that you mixed the Hebrew of Isaiah and the Koine Greek of John tells me that your source has no idea what Biblical hermenutics and languages actually are.

Whoever you got that argument from is an absolute dunce in the field of Scriptural translation.

The way you arrogantly condescended at me when declaring your ludicrous argument is equally amusing.

And the text ALSO tells us exactly what Jesus meant when John took responsibility for taking care of Mary’s needs, not the other way around.


251 posted on 08/28/2020 10:50:01 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: MurphsLaw

No. Christ was talking to John and John alone. After that He said woman behold your son. Does that me we are all Johns mother? I hardly think so.


252 posted on 08/28/2020 10:53:10 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Luircin

details...


253 posted on 08/28/2020 11:43:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mom MD
Well... seeing as John's Mother was right there at the foot of the Cross as well.... I'm sure Jesus, in some small way, was talking to her too.... we can only guess he must not have liked her....

OR>>> Jesus was sooo progressive.... and seeing into the future...He thought one day...hey ! having two mommies is really a cool thing...

Yeah... 2 mommies- WHAT JEWISH guy wouldn't want that !!!!

254 posted on 08/28/2020 2:09:07 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen”)
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To: Luircin
I don't condescend.... I'm just sarcastic.....

And yes, confession awaits me !

255 posted on 08/28/2020 2:12:01 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen”)
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To: MurphsLaw; Mom MD

Or maybe Jesus was providing for the earthly care of his mother since he would be ascending into Heaven in less than two months?


256 posted on 08/28/2020 2:31:51 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: MurphsLaw

Nonsense, but you need the imaginary nonsense to support the goddess image your religion asserts for the Mother of Jesus.


257 posted on 08/28/2020 2:44:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MurphsLaw

Again the provision was for Mary not John but you are so invested in your mythology you refuse to see that


258 posted on 08/28/2020 3:10:44 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide
But you haven’t responded to, “mother of my Lord” being in the Bible.

Why should I? Wasn't the claim ALL of the prayer to Mary is from the Bible? "Mother of my Lord" was obviously not the same thing as Elisabeth saying, "Mother of God". Try not to hurt your brain digging too deep, it's really as simple as disputing the claim one person made - though there are probably others who think it's the same thing.

BTW...while on the same subject...nowhere in the Bible is "pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death", found either. "Amen" is a given.

259 posted on 08/28/2020 7:22:02 PM PDT by boatbums (Come unto me all you who are burdened and heavy laden - for my yoke is easy and my burden is light.)
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To: boatbums
"Mother of my Lord" was obviously not the same thing as Elisabeth saying, "Mother of God".

How so? What did Elizabeth mean by calling an unborn child, "My Lord"? Do you know how many times God is referred to as Lord in your precious bible?

260 posted on 08/28/2020 7:26:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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