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"For me, it's impossible to repudiate Vatican II and claim to be a traditionalist," he (Barron) said.

Barron is wimp who has to huddle behind closed doors with like-minded people like John Allen's Crux and the Jesuits America Magazine.

1 posted on 08/04/2020 10:15:30 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 08/04/2020 10:17:12 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Radical tradition. An oxymoron, therefore a lie. All lies come from the devil, the father of them. I suppose the Bible has become too traditional now as well.


3 posted on 08/04/2020 10:28:38 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: ebb tide

I’m a Catholic media professional who wasn’t invited to this meeting. For the record, I am an attorney (sole practitioner) who has represented a significant number of lay Catholic broadcasting apostolates before the FCC; my first such client came to me in 1996.

I am a traditional Catholic; I pray for the restoration of the traditional Mass, faith and sacraments.

I also have the right to call out Bishops and priests who engage in heresy and false practice. The 4th Century great St. Athanasius, who fought the Arian Heresy, one said that the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bad bishops. It is a matter of Christian charity to insist that our leaders bear true faith and allegiance to sacred scripture and sacred tradition.

Bp. Barron, to name one example, fell into the heresy that the late Fr. Richard McBrien of unhappy memory taught, that Mary was not a virgin and that Jesus Christ had biological brothers and sisters.

Here in Washington, we had the spectacle of Abp. Wilton Gregory allowing Nancy Pelosi to speak from the pulpit in St. Matthew’s Cathedral and supporting the Marxist, anti-Catholic “Black Lives Matter” movement.

Interestingly, Vatican II called for greater lay participation in the affairs of the Church. Well, Bp. Barron, you can’t have it both ways. It is the laity who sees the novus ordo church for what it is, and who demands something a heck of a lot better. We want our traditional Mass back—the Mass which has been described as the most beautiful thing this side of heaven.

I invite you to take a look at classic venues of Roman Catholic worship such as Chartres cathedral in France or St. John Lateran in Rome, and then look at places such as the new “Rog Mahal” cathedral (also called the Taj Mahony) in Los Angeles. The magnificent vs. the banal. This is a good metaphor for what the modernists have done to the Mass, faith and sacrraments post-Vatican II.


4 posted on 08/04/2020 10:48:06 AM PDT by nd76
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So Church Militant is on the fringe? What about the SSPX that Church Militant likes to spend so much time attacking? What about The Wanderer or The Remnant? And what about the sedevacantists who, whatever their faults, at least have a consistent position with regard to Vatican II: it is heresy being taught by heretical “popes”.


7 posted on 08/04/2020 11:11:33 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ebb tide

Summary of a supposedly polite twitter dialog:

1) Taylor Marshall: Will the Bishops help in defending the toppling of saint statues?
2) Bishop Barron: According to Vatican II, that’s the laity’s job
3) Marshall: Source?
4) Barron: BLOCK


12 posted on 08/04/2020 1:16:35 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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