[Hieronymus]

There are some very good things in some of the documents. It was long winded.

As Pope Francis said in the middle of an extremely long interview some years past:

“He who speaks too long is bound to be misunderstood”

at the same time, he almost inevitably will manage to say something that is correct. Unless he is Joe Biden.

[ebb tide]

There are some very good things in some of the documents.

Were not those "things" obvious prior to the Council?

[ebb tide]

50 years later, Vatican II still divides (article from 2012)

Fifty years ago Thursday, the fourth child from a family of Italian sharecroppers convened a epochal meeting of Roman Catholic Church leaders designed to “open the windows” of the nearly 2,000-year-old institution and let some of the modern world’s “fresh air” inside.

[ebb tide]

There are some very good things in some of the documents.

I'm still waiting for you to list them.

The Principal Errors of Vatican II