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To: ebb tide

Francis will have to answer for himself.

I will have to answer for myself.

And the Fathers of Vatican II will need to answer for themselves. They are responsible for the documents of Vatican II. “The Spirit of Vatican II” is a post-Conciliar phrase that cannot be attributed to them, or at least all of them, whether individually and certainly not collectively.

While I am not the world’s biggest fan of the Fathers of Vatican II, I refuse to conflate them with Francis.


15 posted on 07/26/2020 12:28:32 PM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: Hieronymus
While I am not the world’s biggest fan of the Fathers of Vatican II, I refuse to conflate them with Francis.

The Francis refuses to disengage himself from Vatican II, however:

Pope (Francis0 urges theologians to be ‘faithful, anchored’ to Vatican II

19 posted on 07/26/2020 12:47:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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