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Salvation is a free gift of God! You can have confidence you are saved.
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Posted on 07/24/2020 7:55:20 AM PDT by Teleios Research

Be convinced with these 4 biblical truths: 1. Each of us has sinned; 2. God is just, requiring a punishment for sin; 3. But out of love God sent His Son, Jesus Christ who by dying on the cross, provided forgiveness of sins in taking man’s deserved punishment; 4. Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins and belief in His resurrection, man can gain eternal life. (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 3:21-26) Read more at https://teleiosresearch.com/salvation-explanation/.


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To: PeterPrinciple
Do a word search on what was ‘originally’ used before the scribes manipulated the translation.. Christ is referring to the fallen angels of Genesis... causation of the flood of Noah. Already judged with satan to ‘death’. The fallen angels refused to take this flesh journey..

The first requirement to’ ‘see’ (not enter) the kingdom of God, was to be born from above..

41 posted on 07/24/2020 8:18:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Just mythoughts

You Must Be Born Again
Joh 3:1 There was a man named Nicodemus, a Jewish religious leader who was a Pharisee.
Joh 3:2 After dark one evening, he came to speak with Jesus. “Rabbi,” he said, “we all know that God has sent You to teach us. Your miraculous signs are evidence that God is with You.”
Joh 3:3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
Joh 3:4 “What do You mean?” exclaimed Nicodemus. “How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?”
Joh 3:5 Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.
Joh 3:6 Humans can reproduce only human life,

Read it slowly and let your lips move.

No one can enter heaven without being born of water and the Spirit. Do you need to be born again?


42 posted on 07/24/2020 8:22:55 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Hey, I know the Scripture.. do yourself a favor and search out how it came to be ‘ again’ got inserted in place of ‘ born from above’.. If you are hooked on again it sure is not going to be me that opens your eyes. Carry on..


43 posted on 07/24/2020 8:26:38 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: ADSUM; Responsibility2nd
The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states: This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)

Translation: You don't even have to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved as long as you are a "good person" (by your OWN measure of what good is, of course). God says differently:

    This Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ Salvation exists in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:11,12)

    Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 14:6)

    We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true— in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the TRUE God and eternal life. (I John 5:19,20)

    For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

    And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. (Romans 3:22-24)

44 posted on 07/24/2020 8:37:10 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Just mythoughts

born from above’.. If you are hooked on again i


They are one and the same.

Lets focus on the MUST BE. Do you need to be born again or from above to enter the Kingdom of God?

YES OR NO.


45 posted on 07/24/2020 8:37:54 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Joh 3:6 Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life.
Joh 3:7 So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.’


born again, born from above

What is Jesus telling us?


46 posted on 07/24/2020 8:45:13 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ADSUM
How do you sort the truth out from all the lies, heresies, and blasphemies of the Roman Catholic religion? Do you actually believe a pedophile priest or a practicing homosexual priest has ANY spiritual power? Fantasy that.
47 posted on 07/24/2020 8:51:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: PeterPrinciple

No entity / soul, that does not take the flesh journey will ‘see’ the kingdom of God.


48 posted on 07/24/2020 8:52:00 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Old Yeller

Thanks be to God ... see you in the clouds.


49 posted on 07/24/2020 8:54:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: PeterPrinciple

If you go back to Genesis the newly formed flesh man Adam, was not alive/living, until the breath of life, which means soul/spirit intellect, was breathed into the flesh man’s nostrils.


50 posted on 07/24/2020 8:55:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Mom MD

You did not read Psalm 138:2?


51 posted on 07/24/2020 8:58:07 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: MurphsLaw

A passage that would be precious for your assurance is 1 John 3:9. Try reading it in several translations/versions, including the DR, the KJV, and theearliest English translation you can find. GOD tells us that when we are born again in the now, it is He who then abides in the sinless spirit, sinless because the Righteousness of Christ has been imouted to our once dead spirit come alive forever more. The Word of God separates the soul (the sin nature) from the spirit and then GOD abides in that newborn spirit, regardless of the sin the flesh/soul+body commites thereafter, because sin cannot touch the place where GOD abides.


52 posted on 07/24/2020 9:00:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ConservativeMind

Um, ‘fasith’ is an active word, as in to faithe. A newborn into God’s Family has a perfect parent who will raise you up in the way that you should go. Continuing in sin is not tolerated by God as your parent.


53 posted on 07/24/2020 9:04:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

taking one verse out of context is a dangerous game. But again Jesus is the Word. John 1:1. i’m not sure what your point is


54 posted on 07/24/2020 9:05:28 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ADSUM; boatbums; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; Mark17; daniel1212; MHGinTN; Mom MD

Hey I’m still waiting on that reply mr. rome answer person. I mean since you rc’s gave the world the bible and you know all the mysteries of your god. Since you and other rc’s continue to use the argument of Luther removed the 7 books I will continue to ask why are they so important to a rc?
At face value it appears that you rc’s are just mouth pieces and have no idea what you really believe in except the rcc.org. 1 Peter 3:!5 demands they you be able to defend your belief to everyone.

ADSUM,
Do those 7 books belong in the Old or New Covenant?
If they are Old Covenant theology how exactly does that pertain to a New Covenant Christian?
If they are New Covenant books please explain this...
How are they New Covenant when they are clearly before Jesus Christ was manifested in the flesh at Bethlehem?
What theological significance such as salvation, heaven, or hell do they bring to the New Covenant that wasn’t clearly explained in our current New Testament?

I have asked this question before and never get and answer, so either explain it or quit using it. With no explanation it appears that you rcc’s are simply mouth peices of propaganda with no real understanding of Rome’s beliefs.

Please help me to understand why you rcc’s hang on to those 7 books like they contain the ultimate secrets to eternal life or eternal hell.

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55 posted on 07/24/2020 9:38:31 PM PDT by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-11 it's that simple)
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Um, ‘fasith’ is an active word, as in to faithe. A newborn into God’s Family has a perfect parent who will raise you up in the way that you should go. Continuing in sin is not tolerated by God as your parent.


Um, so what happens to a Christian if they do continue in sin?


56 posted on 07/24/2020 11:03:29 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: ADSUM

So here you go again with the RC practice of asserting refuted Catholic claims time and time again in lieu of an actual valid argument (which they lack) in interaction with that refutes them, which is an argument against being a Catholic, as it means committing intellectual suicide akin to cult members. I actually suspect that such Catholics imagine that this mindless “defense of the faith” obtains them an inheritance, and or that they find parroting propaganda to be comforting.


57 posted on 07/25/2020 2:13:30 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
I actually suspect that such Catholics imagine that this mindless “defense of the faith” obtains them an inheritance, and or that they find parroting propaganda to be comforting.

When I was a catholic, I found it to be comforting. 😁

58 posted on 07/25/2020 2:55:21 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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To: Mark17
When I was a catholic, I found it to be comforting. 😁

No doubt. (Note though that "inheritance" was sppsd to be "indulgence," but at 5AM it seemed the same.)

59 posted on 07/25/2020 4:23:55 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
I guess I kind of thought of it as an indulgence. When I was in the Catholic high school, I went to mass everyday except Saturday. I was told if I went to mass on 9 straight first Fridays, I could get a soul out of purgatory. I felt so empowered. 😁🤗👍
60 posted on 07/25/2020 4:31:09 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot. USAF RULES)
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