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To: JAG 5000

No the Bible is NOT God’s words. You been lied to starting from the Council of Nicene. A council made up of men who decided what to put into the Bible. If it were God’s words, the Bible would not be the size that it is. The Bible is a written collection of oral stories passed down from generation to generation. The New Testament is not even written by the authors that are of the Book that they represent. They are the accounts of the Disciples. It is a history book, nothing more.

Again you use the words of the Bible to prove the Bible. That is a circular fallacy. And that is where you lose the argument.

Again not arguing Free Will because you conflate the two.
John 3:16 presents all people with a Free Will choice:

These are outcomes not choices. Why only two outcomes if it is not predetermined.
{1} Choose to perish
or
{2} Choose Eternal Life
Again Free Will.
Again you conflate choice with outcome. Why can I not choose either, because the outcome has already been decided for me. That is predetermination. Christianity and the like are considered predetermination religions. I choose neither to perish nor eternal life. Now what? What is my outcome?


66 posted on 07/01/2020 11:37:56 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: zaxtres

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words. You been lied to starting from the Council of Nicene. A council made up of men who decided what to put into the Bible. If it were God’s words, the Bible would not be the size that it is. The Bible is a written collection of oral stories passed down from generation to generation. The New Testament is not even written by the authors that are of the Book that they represent. They are the accounts of the Disciples. It is a history book, nothing more.”___Zaxtres

________

“It {the Bible} is a history book and
nothing more.”___Zaxtres

________

“And that is where you lose the argument.”___Zaxtres

____________

* Laugh Out Loud.

* Its impossible to “lose an argument” on the Internet.

* What you can do is “make your points”

* Do you really believe that you sitting there
pecking away on your keyboard is going to have
any significent impact on this world?

* It is NOT.

* Soon this thread will be buried forever deep
within the “bowels of the Internet” never
to be seen again.

* Your rants against the Bible being God’s word
are no more than pharts against the wind.

* Please= feel free to continue to rant
and phart against the wind to your heart’s
content.

JAG

PS

“It {the Bible} is a history book and
nothing more.”___Zaxtres

False.

Please continue to phart against the wind.
Thank you.

Scot me up Beamy.


67 posted on 07/01/2020 12:06:37 PM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: zaxtres

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words.
You been lied to starting from the
Council of Nicene. A council made
up of men who decided what to put
into the Bible. If it were God’s
words, the Bible would not be the
size that it is. The Bible is a
written collection of oral stories
passed down from generation to
generation. The New Testament is
not even written by the authors
that are of the Book that they
represent. They are the accounts
of the Disciples. It is a history
book, nothing more.”____Zaxtres

______

* False.

* Why don’t you make a decision to start posting
bright cheerful optimistic encouraging messages
instead of such as that up there?

* Christianity has enough problems as it is,
without you adding to the trouble with your
posts against the Bible being God’s word.

* God knows more than you do.

* God has made it clear that the Bible is His
word to mankind.

“and how from infancy you have known
the Holy Scriptures, which are able
to make you wise for salvation through
faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture
is God-breathed and is useful for
teaching, rebuking, correcting and
training in righteousness, so that
the servant of God may be thoroughly
equipped for every good work.”
2 Timothy 3:15-17

* The Apostle Paul wrote that up there.

* Christians are going to listen to the
Apostle Paul, and NOT listen to Zaxtres.

JAG

Scot me up Beamy.


68 posted on 07/01/2020 12:27:40 PM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: zaxtres

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words.
You been lied to starting from the
Council of Nicene. A council made
up of men who decided what to put
into the Bible. If it were God’s
words, the Bible would not be the
size that it is. The Bible is a
written collection of oral stories
passed down from generation to
generation. The New Testament is
not even written by the authors
that are of the Book that they
represent. They are the accounts
of the Disciples. It is a history
book, nothing more.”___Zaxtres

______

* The Bible IS God’s words.

* 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says that all Scripture is
God-breathed and is therefore useful for teaching
and preaching and for many other good purposes.
{1} the Holy Scriptures
{2} can make you wise for salvation
{3} which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
{4} all Scripture is useful for:
{5} teaching
{6} rebuking
{7} correcting
{8} training in righteousness
{9} so that the man of God
{10} may be equipped for every god work

* God loves us.

* God has spoken to us in His word the Bible.

* His word is a Lamp and a Light to help us
successfully make our way through this life.

* Thank God for His word the Holy Bible.

THAT is how to write an encouraging post
that will actually help some other human
being.

* The very last thing on Earth that any human
being needs to hear, is that the Bible is not
the true word of God.

* The Bible tells us about the LOVE of God expressed
through the gift of His Son the Lord Jesus who died
for us on the Cross.

* And about many other truths that we all need to
know and believe.

JAG


69 posted on 07/01/2020 12:45:12 PM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: zaxtres

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words. You been lied to starting from the Council of Nicene. A council made up of men who decided what to put into the Bible. If it were God’s words, the Bible would not be the size that it is. The Bible is a written collection of oral stories passed down from generation to generation. The New Testament is not even written by the authors that are of the Book that they represent. They are the accounts of the Disciples. It is a history book, nothing more.

Again you use the words of the Bible to prove the Bible. That is a circular fallacy. And that is where you lose the argument.

Again not arguing Free Will because you conflate the two.
John 3:16 presents all people with a Free Will choice:

These are outcomes not choices. Why only two outcomes if it is not predetermined.
{1} Choose to perish
or
{2} Choose Eternal Life
Again Free Will.
Again you conflate choice with outcome. Why can I not choose either, because the outcome has already been decided for me. That is predetermination. Christianity and the like are considered predetermination religions. I choose neither to perish nor eternal life. Now what? What is my outcome?”___Zaxtres

___________

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words.
You been lied to starting from the
Council of Nicene. A council made
up of men who decided what to put
into the Bible. If it were God’s
words, the Bible would not be the
size that it is. The Bible is a
written collection of oral stories
passed down from generation to
generation. The New Testament is
not even written by the authors
that are of the Book that they
represent. They are the accounts
of the Disciples. It is a history
book, nothing more.”___Zaxtres

________

* FALSE.

* You preach FALSE doctrines.

* YOU are NOT an authority on Christianity.

YOU are NOT an authority on the Bible.

* YOU are just one more dude sitting at a keyboard
pecking away hawking his opinions.

* The Bible IS God’s word.

* 2 timothy 3:16-17 says that all Scripture is
God-breathed and is therefore useful for teaching
and preaching and for many other good purposes.
{1} the Holy Scriptures
{2} can make you wise for salvation
{3} which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
{4} all Scripture is useful for:
{5} teaching
{6} rebuking
{7} correcting
{8} training in righteousness
{9} so that the man of God
{10} may be equipped for every good work


85 posted on 07/03/2020 10:15:10 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: zaxtres

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words. You been lied to starting from the Council of Nicene. A council made up of men who decided what to put into the Bible. If it were God’s words, the Bible would not be the size that it is. The Bible is a written collection of oral stories passed down from generation to generation. The New Testament is not even written by the authors that are of the Book that they represent. They are the accounts of the Disciples. It is a history book, nothing more.

Again you use the words of the Bible to prove the Bible. That is a circular fallacy. And that is where you lose the argument.

Again not arguing Free Will because you conflate the two.
John 3:16 presents all people with a Free Will choice:

These are outcomes not choices. Why only two outcomes if it is not predetermined.
{1} Choose to perish
or
{2} Choose Eternal Life
Again Free Will.
Again you conflate choice with outcome. Why can I not choose either, because the outcome has already been decided for me. That is predetermination. Christianity and the like are considered predetermination religions. I choose neither to perish nor eternal life. Now what? What is my outcome?”___Zaxtres

______

“No the Bible is NOT God’s words.
You been lied to starting from the
Council of Nicene. A council made
up of men who decided what to put
into the Bible. If it were God’s
words, the Bible would not be
the size that it is. The Bible
is a written collection of oral
stories passed down from generation
to generation. The New Testament
is not even written by the authors
that are of the Book that they
represent. They are the accounts
of the Disciples. It is a history
book, nothing more.”___Zaxtres

___________

That up there is FALSE.

Here are some Bible verses that teach
that the Bible is God’s word.

I am going to make certain that these Bible verses
that teach that the Bible is God’s word are NOT forgotten.

Here they are again:

1 Peter 1:23-25
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. For, “All people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the LORD endures forever.” And this is the word that was preached to you.

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1 Thessalonians 2:13
And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as a human word, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is indeed at work in you who believe.

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2 Peter 3:16
He {Paul} writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

___________

Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true

____________

Colossians 3:16
Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts.
NOTE: The “message of Christ” is found only
in God’s word the Bible.

__________

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

________

Isaiah 55:11
So is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

________

John 5:39-40
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

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John 17:17
Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.

___________

Luke 11:28
He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.

________

Luke 24:44-49
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.
Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.

___________

Matthew 4:4
Jesus answered, It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.

_______

Revelation 1: 1- 3
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.

_______

Romans 10:17
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

________

James 1: 22-25
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it—not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.

________

2 Timothy 3:14-17
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

___________

Also consider these:
Job 23:12
John 1:1 {The living Word speaks God’s word}
Mathew 1:1-11 {Jesus used the Holy Scriptures to resist Satan.}
Psalm 12:16

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The Holy Bible is the word of God.

JAG

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86 posted on 07/03/2020 10:35:05 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: zaxtres; JAG 5000
Again you use the words of the Bible to prove the Bible. That is a circular fallacy.

Actually the best tool to prove the Bible is the word of God is the Bible. The creator of all things has written a book and as we should expect, it is a masterpiece. There are too many features that men could not have done
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
The fact that Christ can be found throughout the Old Testament is but one feature. Starting in Genesis: Adam is a figure of Christ(Roman 5:14), Able, Seth, Noah, the ark, the rainbow, Isaac, the whole life of Joseph, to list a few.
88 posted on 07/03/2020 12:09:17 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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