Posted on 06/17/2020 9:51:36 AM PDT by ADSUM
Yes, as Jesus judges each on our death and accepts us into Heaven as saints, or temporarily into Purgatory or into Hell.
In addition, Jesus gave the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter and his successors the authority to bind and loose. (Matthew 16:18-19). So the Pope has the infallible authority in matters of faith and morals to solemnly canonize an individual as a saint.
It seems a bit late to be investigating this guys so-called miracles. A couple of days research in South Dakota is going to be used to determine his saint hood?
Even this pope? Francis is a joke.
Amen, brother.
And THOSE "successors" are the popes. TWO THOUSAND years of unbroken papacy. "Papacy" comes from "papa," father.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popes
You certainly are free to judge Pope Francis as you like.
The Cardinals who elected him had the issue settled before the vote.
And when Pope Francis dies the same body of Cardinals will elect a new pope.
And so it goes after 2000 years of the papacy.
There have been bad popes. If you would be interested you can look up THOSE popes on the Internet.
And, there's not a darn thing YOU can do about it except complain and bad-mouth, which is allowable here. I guess it satisfies you on some level.
By the way, Beethoven was a Catholic, a NOMINAL Catholic, like MOST of the population south of our border.
Popes have been elected by the College of Cardinals since 1059. Earlier they were chosen by the clergy and people of Rome, which often meant some powerful local family putting one of their own family members into the position.
Yes. Popes can be saints or sinners. They can have political agendas. Popes only answer to God.
SECOND LATERAN COUNCIL (1139).—The death of Pope Honorius II (February, 1130) was followed by a schism. Petrus Leonis (Pierleoni), under the name of Anacletus II, for a long time held in check the legitimate pope, Innocent II, who was supported by St. Bernard and St. Norbert. In 1135 Innocent II celebrated a Council at Pisa, and his cause gained steadily until, in January, 1138, the death of Anacletus helped largely to solve the difficulty. Nevertheless, to efface the last vestiges of the schism, to condemn various errors and reform abuses among clergy and people, Innocent, in the month of April, 1139, convoked, at the Lateran, the tenth cecumenical council. Nearly a thousand prelates, from most of the Christian nations, assisted. The pope opened the council with a discourse, and deposed from their offices those who had been ordained and instituted by the antipope and by his chief partisans, Aegidius of Tusculum and Gerard of Angouleme. As Roger, King of Sicily, a partisan of Anacletus who had been reconciled with Innocent, persisted in maintaining in Southern Italy his schismatical attitude, he was excommunicated. The council likewise condemned the errors of the Petrobrusians and the Henricians, the followers of two active and dangerous heretics, Peter of Bruys and Arnold of Brescia. The council promulgated against these heretics its twenty-third canon, a repetition of the third canon of the Council of Toulouse (1119) against the Manichans. Finally, the council drew up measures for the amendment of ecclesiastical morals and discipline that had grown lax during the schism. Twenty-eight canons pertinent to these matters reproduced in great part the decrees of the Council of Reims, in 1131, and the Council of Clermont, in 1130, whose enactments, frequently cited since then under the name of the Lateran Council, acquired thereby increase of authority. Canon IV: Injunction to bishops and ecclesiastics not to scandalize anyone by the colors, the shape, or extravagance of their garments, but to clothe themselves in a modest and well-regulated manner. Canons vi, vii, xxi: Condemnation and repression of marriage and concubinage among priests, deacons, subdeacons, monks, and nuns. Canon x: Excommunication of laymen who fail to pay the tithes due the bishops, or who do not surrender to the latter the churches of which they retain possession, whether received from bishops, or obtained from princes or other persons. Canon xii fixes the periods and the duration of the Truce of God. Canon xiv: Prohibition, under pain of deprivation of Christian burial, of jousts and tournaments which jeopardize life. Canon xx: Kings and princes are to dispense justice in consultation with the bishops. Canon xxv: No one must accept a benefice at the hands of a layman. Canon xxvii: Nuns are prohibited from singing the Divine Office in the same choir with monks or canons. Canon xxviii: No church must be left vacant more than three years from the death of the bishop; anathema is pronounced against those (secular) canons who exclude from episcopal election persons of piety”—i.e. regular canons or monks.
Sure it was settled before the vote. Thanks to the St Gallen Mafia.
Black Elks vision is represented by a cross called the Tower of the Four winds in Blair, Nebraska. He most certainly was a Christian.
His book was heavily edited by John Neuhart.
Why has no one pinged Black Elk to this thread?
Someone mentioned on this thread that BlackElk is no longer with us.
Oh. Sorry, I didn’t know.
I was referring to children who, TODAY, would be aborted. All of Beethoven's family had hearing problems but abortion was out of the question. So, when Ludwig came along, his mother had him, of course. Their being Catholic had nothing to do with anything.
Hard to believe in a world without Beethoven. He composed his 9th (and last) symphony stone, cold deaf. He heard the music in his mind.
As for the papacy, there were some awful abuses of power but the Church and the papacy have survived all the trials and tribulations.
Jesus knew that Judas would betray Him but He allowed Judas to do the deed. Jesus HAD to choose mere mortals to carry on His Church.
Since the popes were men they were sinners. We all are.
Today there are 1.2 billion Catholics worldwide. I'd say that Jesus succeeded in giving us Christianity.
Have you ever been to St. Peter's Basilica?
All the names of all the popes are right at the front doors. They are all ENGRAVED IN GRANITE. I guess that's where that saying came from.
You might even see it. Michaelangelo's famous PIETA is in the front area of St. Peter's.
Downstairs, which was at street level when the Basilica was built, is the tomb of St. Peter himself. There is a simple box and it says: Here lies Peter.
One thing...there is a dress code to enter St. Peter's: no shorts, no strapless, no bare shoulders. They have people in front checking every one out before they enter the Basilica.
Every Christian ought to visit the Holy Land and St. Peter's in Rome. Those two are musts for all Christians.
Posted by Dr Sivana:
A great time to pray for the soul and family of deceased Catholic Freeper, James F. Altham, Jr., known on this board as BlackElk. He is greatly missed.
Who knows how many people who would have become great scientists or musicians have been killed by abortion since 1972?
1. I'm glad you got to visit there. Our Christian roots are in Israel but the world-wide Catholic Church has its home in Rome. Thanks first to St. Paul, then to St. Peter who followed him there.
2. MILLIONS? HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS?
I can't even begin to imagine.
Our Father in Heaven knows. He knows every hair on every head He ever created.
There WILL be a price to pay for those who had abortions, their doctors, nurses and all the staff KNOWINGLY involved in the murder of God's youngest, most innocent and most vulnerable.
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