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Vatican considers sainthood for Lakota Chief Nicholas Black Elk
National Catholic Reporter ^ | 8/25/18 | kirk peterson

Posted on 06/17/2020 9:51:36 AM PDT by ADSUM

The Catholic Church could get its second Native American saint if a Vatican research trip to South Dakota this month leads to confirmation of two miracles performed by Nicholas Black Elk, a Lakota Sioux medicine man born in the Civil War era.

Fr. Luis Escalante, a Vatican postulator, or researcher for sainthood candidates, recently spent several days in western South Dakota gathering information about Black Elk's life in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Escalante spoke with local advocates for the cause, including some who testified to the reportedly miraculous powers of a man who practiced traditional Lakota rituals and also baptized more than 400 Native Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at ncronline.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; lakota; saints
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The fact that he's even being considered, despite having openly maintained his Lakota traditions alongside his Catholicism, suggests his contributions — and his identity as both Native American and Catholic — are more appreciated in the church now than they might have been in decades and centuries past.

There was a documentary shown on local ABC station last Sunday.

1 posted on 06/17/2020 9:51:36 AM PDT by ADSUM
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I’m surprised the pope has not declared George Floyd a saint yet. What is taking him so long... /sarc.


2 posted on 06/17/2020 9:53:50 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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I read his book Black Elk Speaks and enjoyed it but didn't get anything from it that would cause me to understand him being considered for sainthood.
3 posted on 06/17/2020 9:54:20 AM PDT by fso301
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Was GF Catholic? I think that that is a prerequisite for sainthood.


4 posted on 06/17/2020 10:05:26 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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“ There was a soldier on the ground and he was still kicking. A Lakota [Sioux] rode up and said to me, ‘Boy, get off and scalp him.’ I got off and started to do it. He had short hair and my knife was not very sharp. He ground his teeth. Then I shot him in the forehead and got his scalp. ... After awhile [on the battlefield] I got tired looking around. I could smell nothing but blood, and I got sick of it. So I went back home with some others. I was not sorry at all. I was a happy boy.”

Sounds like a saint to me /sarc off/


5 posted on 06/17/2020 10:09:44 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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CHARLOTTE — “Walking the Good Red Road: Nicholas Black Elk’s Journey to Sainthood” – a documentary about Servant of God Nicholas Black Elk – offers a unique glimpse into this Catholic lay leader’s life and spirituality.

Nicholas Black Elk was a Catholic convert and catechist among the Oglala Lakota (Sioux) Tribe in South Dakota during the late 19th and early 20th centuries – among the most turbulent times for Native Americans living on the Great Plains.

http://catholicnewsherald.com/90-news/local/5826-documentary-on-nicholas-black-elk-lakota-medicine-man-turned-catholic-teacher-premiers


6 posted on 06/17/2020 10:11:01 AM PDT by ADSUM
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4L8r


7 posted on 06/17/2020 10:18:50 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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A great time to pray for the soul and family of deceased Catholic Freeper, James F. Altham, Jr., known on this board as BlackElk. He is greatly missed.


8 posted on 06/17/2020 10:32:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Biggest question is, did Nicholas Black Elk give witness to the truth of the Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ?

That is sine qua non to being a Saint. He was baptized and had been a teacher of the catechism to a people who had not been evangelized. For the rest of the requirements, life of authentic witness to the faith, and contribution to the faith...maybe?

I would like to hear the story. He may be a Saint, but it might not be provable that he meets the requirements for admission into the canon of Saints.


9 posted on 06/17/2020 10:32:47 AM PDT by Bayard
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Wasn’t he the inventor of the casino?


10 posted on 06/17/2020 10:34:19 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Our Father, Who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.


11 posted on 06/17/2020 10:45:38 AM PDT by ADSUM
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The Lord decides sainthood, not the Vatican.


12 posted on 06/17/2020 11:04:07 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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The Lord decides the eternal Sainthood....
13 posted on 06/17/2020 11:46:18 AM PDT by MurphsLaw ("Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven...")
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It would seem that you are not familiar with the steps toward Sainthood in the Catholic Church. Am I correct?

First, a person is pronounced “Servant of God”
Second, a person pronounced “Venerable”
Third, a person is beatified “Blessed”
Fourth, a person is canonizd “Saint”

It takes two miracles to work through all this.


14 posted on 06/17/2020 11:53:35 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The fact that he's even being considered, despite having openly maintained his Lakota traditions alongside his Catholicism, suggests his contributions — and his identity as both Native American and Catholic — are more appreciated in the church now than they might have been in decades and centuries past. There was a documentary shown on local ABC station last Sunday.

There are NO "native American Indians." They weren't even the first people in North America.

Genetically they are Asian Orientals. DNA doesn't lie. Look it up.
Two things link them to Oriental Asians:

1. ALL Oriental Asians have a deficiency in acetaldehyde dehydrogenase.

Google:
The enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) metabolizes the ethanol (that's the type of alcohol in alcohol) into toxic acetaldehyde. From there the liver enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH) metabolizes acetaldehyde into acetate, a less toxic compound that breaks down into water and carbon dioxide

This deficiency is why "native American Indians" couldn't handle alcohol...a.k.a. "fire water." It was their DNA inheritance from their Oriental Asian ancestors.
When I was in my late 20's I had a glass of red wine and my face turned purple. My sister drove me to the E.R. and much benedryl was pumped into me. I recovered.
Later on I got shots to put that enzyme into me and I was able to drink wine, etc. with no effects at all.
I had my DNA done and my mother had 8% "East Asian" genes. She bequeathed that allergy to me. My SISTER didn't get it.

2. Oriental Asians have little body hair: i.e. no hair on their forearms.
And I have no hair on my forearms. I thought it was normal since both my mother and sister were the same.
Later on I saw other women's hairy forearms.

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DNA is pretty much a crap shoot.

15 posted on 06/17/2020 11:55:18 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ADSUM

Maybe now Two Dogs Humping can get his wings?


16 posted on 06/17/2020 12:05:02 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: bigbob

Yes, it came to him in a vision.


17 posted on 06/17/2020 12:07:30 PM PDT by Marchmain (Is everything interconnected?)
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I thought Pope Francis changed it to 1 miracle? Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve read that more than once.


18 posted on 06/17/2020 12:08:52 PM PDT by Marchmain (Is everything interconnected?)
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That was an incident with St. Junipero Serra.

There were so many other miracles with St. Serra while he was an apostolic missionary in California.

Look up the Litany of St. Junipero Serra.


19 posted on 06/17/2020 12:25:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thanks.


20 posted on 06/17/2020 12:26:06 PM PDT by Marchmain (Is everything interconnected?)
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