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Italian Freemasonry Magazine Strongly Endorses Pope Francis’ Human Fraternity Document
Edward Pentin ^ | May 15, 2020 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 05/15/2020 6:23:39 PM PDT by ebb tide

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Masonic rituals are inimical to Catholicism and a strong anti-Catholicism also permeates Freemasonry, according to Father William Saunders in a 1996 article published on EWTN’s website. Some particularly strong critics, such as Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan, also believe its higher ranks are committed to worshiping Satan.

“Alas, ultimately [Freemasonry] is close to Satanism,” he said in his 2019 book interview Christus Vincit. “Not every Freemasonic group is Satanic, but the roots are Satanic and lead to Satanism in the highest degrees of Freemasonry.”

1 posted on 05/15/2020 6:23:39 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 05/15/2020 6:24:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Soros.


3 posted on 05/15/2020 6:26:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: ebb tide

They probably wrote it.


4 posted on 05/15/2020 6:28:44 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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Many of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and Paul Revere...to name just a few. Based on this article, I suggest that all mention of their names by stricken from the history books.

Oh, wait a minute. The people I just mentioned were good and honorable men. Now I don’t know what to think.


5 posted on 05/15/2020 6:37:21 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Now I don’t know what to think.

I'm not surprised.

6 posted on 05/15/2020 6:42:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I was being a tad bit sarcastic, of course.

But my point is serious. The article clearly connects Freemasonry with Satanism. George Washington was a Freemason. If the article is to be believed, then either Washington was a Satanist, or he was incredibly stupid not to notice what was going on around him.

As a side note, what follows is something I’ve mentioned on other threads. The greatest threat to civilization is, in my opinion, radical Islam. Christians everywhere must unite again this scourge! Instead we pick at each other. And yes, sometimes Catholics are the target. When that happens, I will defend Catholics as vigorously as I am defending Freemasons here.


7 posted on 05/15/2020 6:55:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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The article clearly connects Freemasonry with Satanism.

I recommend you re-read the article, slowly this time.

“Not every Freemasonic group is Satanic, but the roots are Satanic and lead to Satanism in the highest degrees of Freemasonry.”

Confessions of a Former Freemason Officer, Converted to Catholicism

8 posted on 05/15/2020 7:02:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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When that happens, I will defend Catholics as vigorously as I am defending Freemasons here.

Don't bother defending Catholicism, if that's your stance.

Papal Condemnations of Freemasonry

9 posted on 05/15/2020 7:11:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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> Confessions of a Former Freemason Officer, Converted to Catholicism <

Thank you for your polite reply. That does not always happen here on Free Republic!

Anyway, there will always be “confessions” from former members of various organizations. Maybe they are disgruntled over losing an election. Who knows?

Anyway, I am a former Freemason. I was active in a lodge for maybe four years. And that was more than twenty years ago. I never once saw anything that could be described as Satanic, or anti-Catholic. I never saw anything negative at all. And I’m not stupid. I kept my eyes and ears open.

So why did I leave Freemasonry? The answer is rather boring. The meetings were dull, and nothing was ever really accomplished. It wasn’t like the Lions Club (of which I was also a member). The Lions held charity drives and delivered goods to shut-ins.

I eventually quit the Lions too. I guess I’m a loner at heart.


10 posted on 05/15/2020 7:16:15 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Anyway, there will always be “confessions” from former members of various organizations. Maybe they are disgruntled over losing an election. Who knows?

From the link I posted to you:

One day, when I was an officer in the lodge of Le Droit Humain, I heard a first-grade ritual that I never heard before and that pays tribute to Lucifer. It is also part of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. I heard the venerable master say: “We must thank Lucifer for bringing light to men,” etc. I was quite taken aback.

11 posted on 05/15/2020 7:19:45 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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There’s a Grand Lodge and a Grand Orient in Italy. The Grand Orient is not recognized by United States Masonry.


12 posted on 05/15/2020 7:22:36 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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> One day, when I was an officer in the lodge of Le Droit Humain, I heard a first-grade ritual that I never heard before... <

I’ve seen such rituals portrayed on Youtube videos. Those videos - and those stories - are absolutely, 100% false. Someone has an ax to grind, and is quite willing to deceive you.

As a side note, many years ago I was talking to an Orthodox Jewish acquaintance of mine. He was perhaps 18 years old at the time. He took me aside, and in low tones he asked me if it were true that Christians drink actual blood at mass.

I tried as gently as I could to set him straight. You see, some had an ax to grind, and so told that young man some horrific lies.

With Freemasonry, as with the mass, many lies abound.


13 posted on 05/15/2020 7:34:28 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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You don't need to agree with me nor eye-witness ex Masons, but if you are Catholic, do you disagree with the popes also?

Papal Condemnations of the Lodge

14 posted on 05/15/2020 7:48:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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I actually have no problem with the popes who denounced Freemasonry. I might disagree with them. But they were, by and large, doing what they thought was best for the Church.

What I do have a problem with are vicious, outright lies.

Some disgruntled former Freemasons will say the most vile things for their own reasons. I once saw a video on YouTube where a man claimed to be a former lodge master. He had the top hat, and all the regalia. He said that once a Masonic meeting started, naked women would come out and dance for the members.

That is such an insane thing to say that it’s almost funny. But some people will believe that monstrous falsehood.

Consider also that Orthodox Jew I mentioned earlier. Someone told him that Christians drink human blood at the mass. That was, of course, another monstrous falsehood.

Thats what I object to. Monstrous falsehoods.

(And I say this as a former Freemason. As I noted in an earlier post, I did not find the organization worth belonging to. So I quit.)


15 posted on 05/15/2020 8:11:00 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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What I do have a problem with are vicious, outright lies.

Can you prove they're lies? Were you at those lodge meetings?

But they were, by and large, doing what they thought was best for the Church.

But do you think you know better than the popes?

16 posted on 05/15/2020 8:18:20 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Someone told him that Christians drink human blood at the mass. That was, of course, another monstrous falsehood.

What do you think you're drinking? What did you tell the orthodox Jew?

17 posted on 05/15/2020 8:24:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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> Can you prove they’re lies? Were you at those lodge meetings? <

I’ve been at enough lodge meetings to be absolutely 100% certain that they are lies. But I cannot “prove” it, as I was not at every lodge meeting that ever was.

Referring back to my long-ago conversation with that young Orthodox Jew, I told him with absolute 100% certainty that Christians do not drink human blood at the mass. But of course I cannot “prove” it, as I was not at every mass that ever was.

> But do you think you know better than the popes? <

That’s actually a tough one. I’m sure that the popes know a heck of a lot more than I do on Church-related matters. But are they 100% correct on every last issue? I think not.

But I have no quarrel with papal decisions anyways. My quarrel is with those people who deliberately spread vile falsehoods.

Anyway, I’m calling it a night. I’ve enjoyed this conversation even though we obviously disagree on a few issues. I appreciate you keeping things civil.

Regards, and good evening.
LR


18 posted on 05/15/2020 8:35:55 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Referring back to my long-ago conversation with that young Orthodox Jew, I told him with absolute 100% certainty that Christians do not drink human blood at the mass.

Stop dancing around.

Answer the question: What are you drinking?

19 posted on 05/15/2020 8:41:33 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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> Answer the question: What are you drinking? <

And here I thought I was done with the Internet for the day. I even had my crossword puzzle book out and ready to go.

The wine at the mass is considered literally to be the Blood of Christ.

But the young Orthodox Jew I mentioned earlier was the son of a friend of mine. The father was a man I greatly respected. So I did not think it was appropriate to go into details with the son. I just told him that, no, Christians do not drink human blood at the mass.

Again,

Regards and good evening.
LR


20 posted on 05/15/2020 8:56:47 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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