[cloudmountain]

but I kept ‘spiritual dimension’ of papacy, SeektheTruth54 wrote: And my friend, Wikipedia? Lol. Life experience. The Immaculate Conception of Mary is not infallible. It is actually demeaning to our salvation.

What is demeaning to YOU is your incredible ignorance about the Catholic Church.

See if you can READ: The Pope is infallible when speaking about faith and morals. The Immaculate Conception is NOT an issue of faith or morals.
It's an HISTORICAL event. SeeksomeBrains00.

Pax tibi!

[SeektheTruth54]

And suddenly in 1870s without any consultation the Pope degrees this? False doctrine re Mary whom while venerated is no different than any other woman while in the flesh.

[SeektheTruth54]

Are you like a priest or something because you are either brainwashed or do not hear from the Holy Ghost like you think you do.

[MurphsLaw]

Hey not for nothing... but not just historical- but scientific now as well.....
Look up the term Michrochimerism… or Fetal Micrchimerism you will be surprised- as many believers will come to learn as DBA micro-cellular research reveals.... but there is scientifically proven research that reveals shared cellular bonding through pregnancy- where by cells are transferred between Mother and Child- in both directions.....and remain... Now if some still believe Christ would have been born with a sinful genetic make up - well that's their deal.
While some will always lack the faith to believe the greatness of God, and the necessity and probability of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary "FULL of Grace" - they are blinded with pride pretending to understand the essence of God... which we can never know on earth...

[MurphsLaw]

Hey not for nothing... but not just historical- but scientific now as well.....
Look up the term Michrochimerism… or Fetal Micrchimerism you will be surprised- as many believers will come to learn as DBA micro-cellular research reveals.... but there is scientifically proven research that reveals shared cellular bonding through pregnancy- where by cells are transferred between Mother and Child- in both directions.....and remain... Now if some still believe Christ would have been born with a sinful genetic make up - well that's their deal.
While some will always lack the faith to believe the greatness of God, and the necessity and probability of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary "FULL of Grace" - they are blinded with pride pretending to understand the essence of God... which we can never know on earth...