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To: ebb tide
The catechism of the Council of Trent taught: "If we look to its value, we must confess that the Redeemer shed his blood for the salvation of all; but if we look to the fruit which mankind have received from it, we shall easily find that it pertains not unto all, but to many of the human race."

Saying "all are justified" sounds a lot like material heresy to my ears.

8 posted on 05/04/2020 9:29:02 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion
The catechism of the Council of Trent taught: "If we look to its value, we must confess that the Redeemer shed his blood for the salvation of all; but if we look to the fruit which mankind have received from it, we shall easily find that it pertains not unto all, but to many of the human race."

Exactly. And that's why Pope Benedict XVI had the words of the canon, at the consecration, corrected from the erroneous "pro omnibus", that VCII forced on us, back to the correct "pro multis".


15 posted on 05/04/2020 9:39:23 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Campion

This group (Bergoglio and fellow travelers) would have us ignore and then forget Trent altogether.


20 posted on 05/04/2020 9:41:51 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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