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To: metmom
It's ALL about tradition....Apostolic Tradition as Christ commanded.... +++"19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"+++

In Berea, in the JEWISH synagogue...Paul was Preaching to observant Jews....and As you say....
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

And St. Paul, being a scholarly Jew was being fact checked by his would be Jewish converts with Jewish scripture... Not the Gospels of Christ or even the Epistles that did not even exist yet....

You can disbelieve what St. Paul believes in Tradition if you wish.....
6 "And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly, and not according to the tradition which they have received of us."

As neither Luke nor Paul walked with Christ, they would have to rely on oral tradition for their writings..... as did all the Gospels written decades later after the Resurrection..... that definitely relied on oral tradition -ie. Parables as The Lord spoke in- and conveyed through Apostolic tradition....

Christ told us "DO THIS in memory of me"..... Not "hey guys, read my book or else..."
44 posted on 04/16/2020 6:58:14 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("We are Easter people...")
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To: MurphsLaw

Lol! I cannot believe you wrote that drivel regarding Luke and Paul. Have you even READ any of his epistles? He SAID he learned everything he knew from the Risen Christ, through dreams and visions from Christ. He specifically stated that he was NOT taught by man but by the Risen Christ. He went to Galatia to show Ptere, James and John what he had learned from the Risen Christ. When they perceived the GRACE that was GIVEN to HIM, they gave to him the right hand of friendship, that HE would go to the Gentiles, and THEY would continue with the Jews.

His message came solely from Christ, in visions and dreams. Unless you think He lied about it.


45 posted on 04/16/2020 7:13:12 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom
And if we apply the same standard to Roman Catholicism as the early believers did to Paul, by searching the scriptures daily, then we will quickly find Roman Catholicism's man-made traditions are not supported.

There is NOTHING in the New Testament that supports many of the RCC claims regarding Mary.

46 posted on 04/17/2020 5:16:02 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MurphsLaw; EagleOne

Tradition is passing down of customs through generations, like celebrating Christmas or Thanksgiving, or Easter. It’s something specific to a culture.

Oral preaching of the gospel by the apostles is NOT tradition.

Catholicism makes that claim so it can try to justify its use of so called *sacred tradition* and putting it on par with God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.

That claim holds no water. It’s a sham.

Jesus had a lot to say about the traditions that the phariees added to Scripture and not ONE of those things is good. He condemned it all the way around. And the reason was that their tradition superseded Scripture, the same thing that Catholicism does.

Besides, if written Scripture, penned by the apostles as eye witness accounts is not good enough, then why should we trust anything the Catholic church has to say? How is word of mouth superior to a verified, written, unchanging account?


47 posted on 04/17/2020 5:33:25 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: MurphsLaw; ealgeone

Cherry picking Scripture leads to error as your post so aptly shows.


48 posted on 04/17/2020 5:34:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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