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Why Did Christ Not Stay Continually With His Disciples After the Resurrection?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-13-20 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/14/2020 9:02:35 AM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 04/14/2020 9:02:35 AM PDT by Salvation
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 04/14/2020 9:03:27 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Christ did stay with his disciples.
Just not merely the twelve Apostles.


3 posted on 04/14/2020 9:08:05 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Salvation
With 20-20 hindsight, I think Christ should have created an AC-130 gunship after The Resurrection, shredded anybody who disagreed with him in the Middle East, and made the Saudi Arabian oil fields part of Israel.


4 posted on 04/14/2020 9:20:36 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Salvation

Well, if after finishing your work on earth, your home and throne was in Heaven with your ever-loving Heavenly Father, would you hang around the earth all the time? I don’t think I would.


5 posted on 04/14/2020 9:21:16 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Salvation

Thank you for this post. I was a lapsed Christian/Luthern for much of my adult life but have returned to believe Jesus Christ lived, died, returned and rose to join His Father in Heaven.


6 posted on 04/14/2020 9:31:50 AM PDT by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: RicocheT

Welcome back!


7 posted on 04/14/2020 9:35:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Many years ago, 1980s, I was chatting with an Army buddy. He was into Indians and I mentioned that I lived in Indian-named towns in Pennsylvania. One of those was Tuscarora. His eyes lit up and then he pulled out an article from his wallet. It was a story about the Tuscarora tribe.

In the article, was a legend passed down about a great man coming to them and teaching about the Christ, his death, and the forgiveness of sins therefrom. I took it that this event took place during Christ’s resurrection before His assertion into heaven.

So, even though Christ did not stay with His loved ones and disciples perpetually, He was busy at other places on earth.


8 posted on 04/14/2020 10:08:51 AM PDT by Deepeasttx
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To: Salvation
Downsized pic for FReepers with smaller screens.


9 posted on 04/14/2020 10:45:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus: My Lord and My God.)
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To: Salvation
John 21:25
There are many more things that Jesus did. If they were all written down, I suppose the whole world could not contain the books.

So many Protestants believe that the Bible, as written, was all there was. I guess they just ignore John's statement that "not all things were written down."

If one tells many Protestants about "Apostolic Tradition" they will ignore it and start quoting the ONLY thing they know...what is written in the Bible.
Jesus' Ministry was more than just what was written in the New Testament. But, it they were Catholic they would know that.

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Protestants believed [thanks to EXCOMMUNICATED CATHOLIC PRIEST FATHER MARTIN LUTHER, 16th century] in only accepting the Old Testament books that were in Hebrew that the JEWS accepted and excluded these:

1. Book of Esdras
2. Book of Tobit (the Vulgate, and Luther call it Tobias
3. Book of Judith.
4. Book of Wisdom.
5. Book of Ecclesiasticus
6. Book of Baruch
7. Book of Susanna
8. and 9. Books of 1st & 2nd Maccabees
NINE BOOKS OF THE WORD OF GOD excluded by Father Luther.
How did he dare deny the written words of His Father in Heaven?

One can only assume that EXCOMMUNICATED CATHOLIC PRIEST FATHER MARTIN LUTHER did not believe in the Word of God, as written by the Apostles.
He believed in the word of EXCOMMUNICATED CATHOLIC PRIEST FATHER MARTIN LUTHER.

I've always thought that Father Luther was, no doubt, a good and holy man, trying to do right. But he BROKE his priestly vow of OBEDIENCE. Not good.

10 posted on 04/14/2020 10:45:37 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: MrEdd

An interesting thought. How do you figure this?


11 posted on 04/14/2020 10:48:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus: My Lord and My God.)
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To: Salvation

He had to appear to the Lamanites in North America, of course.


12 posted on 04/14/2020 10:52:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Deepeasttx

That was my thought as well. Some American tribes have similar legends regarding a heavenly visitation. It’s possible.


13 posted on 04/14/2020 10:53:09 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Salvation

He was busy appearing to the lost tribes in america.


14 posted on 04/14/2020 11:03:15 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Were not the five hundred to whom he appeared disciples?
Did they not go forth and spread the message of Christ after Pentecost? Examination of the story of Pentecost leads me to the conclusion that Christ appeared to many of his people during this period.


15 posted on 04/14/2020 11:28:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd; Salvation
You may be right. A big %age of the people to whom Jesus appeared, whose appearances were recorded in he Gospels, were not Apostles.

Mary Magdalen

The three other women who saw the empty tomb

The two disciples on the road to Emmaus.

The key is, that the vast majority of what He was doing and saying in this period, was not recorded directly in the NT. He taught a lot during the 40-day period between His Resurrection and His Ascension, but we have no more than 3 or 4 sentences of it recorded.

That's why John says there was so much, the earth itself could not contain the books if it were recorded.

But you can bet your bottom dollar that people did not fail to transmit what they heard from Him, to others, both orally, and by their example--- practices which are to be followed and preserved.

16 posted on 04/14/2020 12:11:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Shun anyone who conducts himself not in accord with the tradition he received from us."2 Thess. 3:6)
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To: zeestephen

Ok, I did laugh...


17 posted on 04/14/2020 12:48:09 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: Deepeasttx

Any chance they were visited by a stray Christian like an Irish or Basque who fell off a fishing boat 7-900 years ago?


18 posted on 04/14/2020 3:40:55 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

I’ve tried researching this article several time after the advent of the internet.

Yes (to answer your Q) anything is a maybe. But the way I remember the story, was that it happened many many years ago. Plus, IIRC, the great man that came to them was the Savior himself.

That’s why I always wanted to have a copy of the letter to delve deeper into it.

The guy I refer to was from Montana. And the Tuscarora were an east coast tribe. He carried it with him all the time, in his wallet, due to referencing Christ himself. I’ve never forgot this even though it’s 40-years ago.


19 posted on 04/14/2020 4:31:44 PM PDT by Deepeasttx
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To: cloudmountain
John 21:25 There are many more things that Jesus did. If they were all written down, I suppose the whole world could not contain the books.

So many Protestants believe that the Bible, as written, was all there was. I guess they just ignore John's statement that "not all things were written down."

Like the Mormon and other false religions the Bible is somehow insufficient though Scripture testifies otherwise.

Roman Catholics have taken this verse completely out of context and consider it a carte blanche card to adopt whatever false beliefs they want. But here's the question no Roman Catholic can answer....which of these ECFs, whose opinions contradict themselves, is correct?

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If one tells many Protestants about "Apostolic Tradition" they will ignore it and start quoting the ONLY thing they know...what is written in the Bible.

Yet when the early church was building the canon of Scripture none of the writings the Roman Catholic Church uses was included.

Nor at Trent when Rome dogmatically declared its canon did they include any of these non-biblical writings as canon.

Jesus' Ministry was more than just what was written in the New Testament. But, it they were Catholic they would know that.

What was determined to know about the life of Christ was contained in Scriptures recognized by the early church. If the person was a Christian, they'd know that.

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Protestants believed [thanks to EXCOMMUNICATED CATHOLIC PRIEST FATHER MARTIN LUTHER, 16th century] in only accepting the Old Testament books that were in Hebrew that the JEWS accepted and excluded these:

Rome continues to labor under the false assumption these books were accorded the same status as the canon. Jerome recognized these books were not equal to the canon when he was rendering the Vulgate.

20 posted on 04/14/2020 6:56:08 PM PDT by ealgeone
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