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To: fishtank
...."Is Seventh-day Adventism a Cult,"....

I'm not a 7th Day Adventist. I believe in Scripture. I have a Bible software program and can type "Sabbath" into the search box and I get over 7 pages of verses telling me to worship on the 7th Day and keep it holy and set aside for God. The 7th Day was blessed by God and God marks His people with the 7th Day. Sunday is never mentioned to keep holy. In Scripture there are 2 Mediators mentioned, Moses and Jesus Christ. No popes, no cardinals, no nuns are mentioned. Now lets look at some catholic quotes....

When Emperor Constantine I—a pagan sun-worshipper—came to power in A.D. 313, he legalized Christianity and made the first Sunday-keeping law. His infamous Sunday enforcement law of March 7, A.D. 321, reads as follows: “On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed.” (Codex Justinianus 3.12.3, trans. Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, 5th ed. (New York, 1902), 3:380, note 1.)

The Sunday law was officially confirmed by the Roman Papacy. The Council of Laodicea in A.D. 364 decreed, “Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday but shall work on that day; but the Lord’s day they shall especially honour, and, as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out from Christ” (Strand, op. cit., citing Charles J. Hefele, A History of the Councils of the Church, 2 [Edinburgh, 1876] 316).

Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.”

Again, “The Catholic Church, … by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday” (The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893).

“Protestants do not realize that by observing Sunday, they accept the authority of the spokesperson of the Church, the Pope” (Our Sunday Visitor, February 5, 1950).

“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [Saturday Sabbath to Sunday] was her act... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things” (H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons).

The Catholic Church claims that “the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1, 1923).

You can see that the Popes believe they have authority to change the times and the Laws.

Dan 7:25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, And shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand For a time and times and half a time.

If the pope decides to marry gays and accept abortion, will the RCC follow him because he has the authority to go against the Bible? It's not so far a distance to go from worshiping the sun god on Sunday to accepting gay marriage because many of your priests are gay pedophiles. This is why Scripture says forbidding to marry is doctrines of demons. A priest that is forbidden to marry is almost guaranteed to fail sexually over his lifetime.

The concerning thing for me is even thinking that you can take something in the Bible and change it on a whim. A man, any man, does not have the authority to do that. If he assumes that authority, now THAT is a cult!

15 posted on 04/09/2020 11:25:27 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Lot to unpack in that rant, and so much not true at all.

1. Catholics do not worship statues. That is plain false and just dumb. Do you really think that anyone really thinks that a statue of Mary is actually Mary?!

2. The Sabbath was transferred to Sunday because that is the day of Christ’s Resurrection. Read the early Church Fathers who predated any claim that Constantine had anything to do with it.

3. The Church has the power to do this. It’s the power Jesus gave to bind and loose.

4. No the Pope doesn’t have the power to change doctrine, and they never have. That is a protection of the Petrine office, much as the same as when Peter wrote his books. If there isn’t a protection against error in faith and morals then you wind up with what had happened in Protestant sects, where gay marriage is not only tolerated but celebrated and endorsed.

5. Concerning celebacy your Lord said of it “
“Not all can accept this word, but only those to whom it is granted. Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of God. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it” (Matt. 19:11–12).”. Want to tell him that it’s a doctrine of demons when a man wholly dedicates himself to the work of his Lord and the Kingdom? See https://www.catholic.com/tract/celibacy-and-the-priesthood for more details.

6. The Rapture theology is only about 200 years old and started with the Scofield Bible. Since it’s only 200, and not 2000 years old, then it could never have been taught by Christ and the early Church. Please see https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-rapture for more information.

Lastly the Bible you quote, before Luther cut 6 books and added the word alone to faith (and what does God say about that?) came from us. In fact Luther acknowledged that fact in his writting, thanking the “Papists” for the Bible. There is also more that Jesus taught and said than is written in the Bible. That is why he told his disciples to go out and preach the gospel, not make a bunch of copies of it and pass it around like a Jack Chick track, which is where you get a lot of your information, isn’t it? The Bible came from the Church, not the other way around.

The Rapture is Protestant, not Catholic, so leave us out of your mud slinging.


16 posted on 04/09/2020 12:10:08 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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