Posted on 03/08/2020 7:05:51 PM PDT by massmike
The conversation began in typical fashion, with a question many grandparents ask: When you grow up, Kori Pacyniaks grandmother wondered, what would you like to be?
At that point, the chat took an atypical turn. I want to be a priest, said Kori, then an 8-year-old girl from a devout Polish Catholic family. Grandmother: Only boys can be priests.
Kori: OK, I want to grow up to be a boy. Now 37, Kori Pacyniak no longer wants to be male or female. Pacyniak now identifies as nonbinary, someone who is not strictly feminine or masculine. (And someone who has abandoned gender-specific pronouns like he or she in favor of the more inclusive, if sometimes confusing, they.)
While Pacyniak left behind standard gender roles, the youthful fascination with the priesthood never faded. On Feb. 1, Pacyniak was ordained a priest in the Roman Catholic Womenpriests movement.
The Rev. Kori Pacyniak is now pastor of San Diegos Mary Magdalene Apostle Catholic Community, a Serra Mesa church that preaches A New Way to be Catholic. For this parish, Pacyniak also represents a new way, as they are believed to be the first transgender, nonbinary priest.
Founded in 2005 by Jane Via and Rod Stephens, Mary Magdalene celebrates the Mass with a liturgy that, aside from some tweaks in the wording, would be familiar to most Roman Catholics. The church is not recognized by the San Diego diocese, however, and the Vatican has excommunicated several of the women ordained in what has become a global movement.
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sick
So it would appear queers now believe they are above Gods word and commandments and can bend Him to their will rather than bend to His. They are truly a bunch of misguided, delusional and just plain f*cked up people.
Lord have mercy on them all.
Mary Magdalene now has about 120 registered parishioners; 60 to 70 regularly attend 5 p.m. Sunday Mass at the churchs temporary home, Gethsemane Lutheran Church. Most in the congregation were raised as Catholics, yet were disillusioned by the churchs refusal to ordain women. Even among these believers, though, there was some initial hesitation about a nonbinary cleric.
For some congregants, said Esther LaPorta, president of Mary Magdalenes board, I think at first it might have been something to get used to.
Among those who have had to adjust: Via, the 73-year-old pastor emeritus.
Im struggling to refer to Kori as they, Via said. When there is a single person and we know that is just one person, well, Ive never used the word they for a single person. I know Kori gets frustrated with me at times.
Usually, though, the priest responds to this confusion with a charitable laugh.
This is hard? Pacyniak said. Learning to spell my last name as a child was hard. Welcome to my world!
A restless search
Kori Pacyniak grew up in Edison Park, a neighborhood on Chicagos North Side. The tightly-knit Polish community shared a common language, customs and beliefs. Friends, neighbors and family, Koris comrades in the Polish Scout troop and Polish folkdancing troupe all were Catholic.
Like many children, Kori daydreamed about careers. Some days, the goal was to become a Navy SEAL. On other days, a professional soccer goalie. Or a Catholic nun. Always, though, there was the hope that the impossible dream Kori had shared with a grandmother would, somehow, become possible.
As they went through college and started studying theology, this really became a topic of conversation, said Basia Pacyniak, 67, Koris mother. It was very much what Kori wanted to do.
Majoring in religious studies and Portuguese no employable skills, Kori cracked the undergraduate came out as bisexual. Pacyniak was still searching, though, still examining gender identity and career paths. Although president of Smiths Newman Association, an off-campus Catholic organization, Pacyniak was frustrated by the churchs positions on women and sexuality.
Other people wanted to become president, Pacyniak said. I wanted to overthrow the Vatican.
This restlessness continued post-graduation. After an administrative job in Los Angeles, Pacyniak enrolled in Harvard Divinity Schools masters degree program. The new grad student came out as transgender and started to identify as male. This venture into masculinity was brief and unsatisfactory.
I realized that box was just as restrictive as female, Pacyniak said. Neither male nor female identification works for me.
For a time, Pacyniak considered converting to a church that, while similar in some ways to Catholicism, ordains women and welcomes LGBTQ clergy. Again, though, something didnt seem quite right.
I thought that might be my church home, Pacyniak said of the Episcopal Church. But am I too Catholic to be Episcopalian?
Yet Catholicism posed barriers to Pacyniak. For one thing, Rome only recognizes two genders, male and female. And...
Right now, said Kevin Eckery a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego, ordination is only open to natural born males.
Pacyniak completed studies at Harvard, and later enrolled at Boston Universitys School of Theology. There, Pacyniak studied how to minister to LGBTQ military service members in the years following the repeal of Dont Ask, Dont Tell.
But in 2016, a friend forwarded a job listing. Mary Magdalene needed a pastor. Candidates didnt have to be ordained, if he, she or they were willing to work toward ordination.
In January 2017, Pacyniak began serving as Mary Magdalenes pastor.
Queer theology
The Rev. Caedmon Grace is a minister at the Metropolitan Church of San Diego, a church that grew out of the LGBTQ community. Even here, there are ongoing discussions about the language of worship.
Consider John 3:16. A familiar New Testament verse, its often translated as For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...
Our practice in the MCC is to use inclusive language, said Grace. So that has become For God so loved the world that God sent the begotten one. Were not identifying God as male or female.
This may not be the translation heard in most Christian churches, yet the emerging field of queer theology questions many of the assumptions of traditional religious prayer and practice.
We have to get out of the hetero-nomative lens we use for understanding everything, said Pacyniak, who is completing a doctorate in University of California Riversides queer and trans theology program. We have to make trans and queer folks see themselves as part of the liturgy.
Even at Mary Magdalene, a church that prides itself on its inclusive nature, this requires some work. When Pacyniak arrived, the liturgy included a line, We believe that all women and men are created in Gods image.
This is great, Pacyniak told Via after Mass. But for people who dont identify as women or men, that doesnt work.
The line was rewritten: We believe that all people of all genders are created in Gods image.
Creating a spiritual support community for trans and nonbinary people is a key goal of Mary Magdalenes newly ordained priest. So is reaching out to the congregations men and women.
Lets make the tent as big and as open as we can, Pacyniak said. Its an ongoing opportunity. Dont get too comfortable; have conversations with people on the margins.
All in good time
Through this past January, Via assisted Pacyniak on the altar during Mass. The new pastor studied, learning theology, liturgy and administrative duties, before being ordained as deacon in June 2019 and then, on Feb. 1, as a priest. More than 100 attended the ordination, so the ceremony was moved from Mary Magdalenes small space to the soaring Gothic sanctuary of St. Pauls Episcopal Cathedral.
The pews held Pacyniaks parents, Basia and Bernard; brother, sister-in-law, two nephews and several cousins; friends from high school, Smith, Harvard and Boston U.; plus dozens of congregants from Mary Magdalene.
Kori is very open and kind, said Carol Kramer, who has attended Mary Magdalene for a decade. I think theyll be a really good pastor.
Many religious traditions teach that were all created as complex, multi-faceted, beloved children of God. Pacyniak is a pastor and a student of queer theology, yes, but so much more: a baseball fan with shifting allegiances, from Cubs to Red Sox to Padres a regular Comic-Con attendee and, this priest insists, a Catholic. This brand of Catholicism may not be recognized by the Vatican, but that doesnt bother Pacyniaks parents, who remain practicing Roman Catholics.
We are very proud of Kori, said Basia Pacyniak. The movement and the community is very welcoming, very open, and we are very supportive of that community. I feel that it is not in conflict with the Catholicism that we practice.
The Pacyniaks foresee a day when their church will include women priests. Give it time, counseled Bernard Pacyniak, 66.
Lots of time.
I imagine, he said, in 100 years this will all be part of one organization.
Yeah, I know. It sucks being either gender. Why when I was growing up, I'd go outside as a boy and my father would shove a rake in my hand and tell me to rake the leaves. I'd then run inside like a girl and my mom would shove a broom in my hand. I'd then run back outside and my father would tell me to change the oil on the lawn mower. None of that was working for me.
Demon worship
The left is always dissatisfied with reality.
I’ve recently been back in touch with my cousin. Their one daughter is getting married in October. He told me his other daughter has a non binary partner who goes by they. He said it was hard.
It also sounds just incredibly stupid.
Always?
Too bad you didn’t know about non-binary. You might have had a lot more free time.
Yes, but we didn’t have binary back then to escape chores.
It all started with the acceptance of "their" as a "non-binary" singular possessive.
Camel's nose and all that. I still avoid ending a sentence with a preposition, but I'm not as fastidious as I once was.
Slippery slope.
Thanks for putting Serra Mesa on the Map,
ah,
Person or Whatever.
I wonder what “lord” he’s talking about.
It is a bit more subtly argument than that, I admit.
The left consistently pushes for impossible things. The things they want are mostly variations of The Big Rock Candy Mountain. Things they cannot obtain, because of the nature of reality.
One of the signs of maturity is an understanding that man is not God; that we have limits.
The limits may be a long way away from where we are; but there are limits.
Much of the fantasy on the left is simply insisting that we call things by different names.
Kipling mentioned this sort of group delusion in his Jungle Book stories of the monkey people. They had a saying "We all say so, so it must be true!"
Dumb question, but how can someone be transgender and non-binary at the same time? I thought that non-binary means that they reject the whole idea of binary male / female.
“They”
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Bizarre
Theres so much wrong with this I dont even know where to start.
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