Clement and Irenaeus were and still remain fallible men who wrote their opinion of the issues at hand.
I never claimed that they or their individual writings were infallible.
That Rome did not include their writings in their canon at Trent is telling.
Why should they have? The Catholic church never held that the individual writings of the Church Fathers were infallible or equal to Scripture. But they are witnesses to what was the common teaching of the Church at the time. And it is this, the common teaching of the Church, that is infallible.
Again, their writings were well known by the early Christians. If what they taught goes against what these early Christians believed, please show the evidence of those who objected to it and held the the Protestant views of the 16th century. All you can say is that these ideas do not agree with what you think the Bible says, so therefore the early Christians could not have believed it. The documentary evidence of the time, contradicts you.
Clement and Irenaeus were and still remain fallible men who wrote their opinion of the issues at hand.<<
I never claimed that they or their individual writings were infallible.
Rome did equate the writings of the ECFs as equal to Scripture under the auspices of "tradition"....however loosely defined as that may be.
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>>That Rome did not include their writings in their canon at Trent is telling.<<
Why should they have? The Catholic church never held that the individual writings of the Church Fathers were infallible or equal to Scripture. But they are witnesses to what was the common teaching of the Church at the time. And it is this, the common teaching of the Church, that is infallible.
Yet the RCC, and you, are citing individuals to support your position.
I can cite an equal number who are in opposition to the various topics near and dear to Rome.
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Again, their writings were well known by the early Christians.
Questionable assertion.
If what they taught goes against what these early Christians believed, please show the evidence of those who objected to it and held the the Protestant views of the 16th century.
Show me one clear doctrine of Rome ALL of the ECFs are in 100% agreement on.
Let's start with the Immaculate Conception.
All you can say is that these ideas do not agree with what you think the Bible says, so therefore the early Christians could not have believed it. The documentary evidence of the time, contradicts you.
The ECFs writings do not all agree with what Rome has selectively chosen from them. The evidence of the ECFs on this contradicts Rome.
My proof text is Scripture.
Your proof text is fallible men.
I know which one I'm relying upon.