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To: ealgeone

There’s some truth in that. I also bet Luther and the other Reformers would be amazed and gratified at the level of “protestantizing” by the pope, against Roman Catholics.


47 posted on 01/28/2020 10:37:20 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I also bet Luther and the other Reformers would be amazed and gratified at the level of “protestantizing” by the pope, against Roman Catholics.

It was Ratzinger who wrote rather objectively about Luther, while just what concord would Luther have with Francis on faith and morals? Climate Armageddon: Non-proselytizing; Universal brotherhood and salvation? You may be better off saying Luther was a better Catholic than your pope.

Luther: faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit... Faith cannot help doing good works constantly... if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit... where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith.. where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both. if obedience and God's commandments do not dominate you, then the work is not right, but damnable, surely the devil's own doings, although it were even so great a work as to raise the dead... if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk. Works are necessary for salvation, but they do not cause salvation... faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works... faith must be exercised, worked and polished; be purified by fire... it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good. If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present... where the works are absent, there is also no Christ... References and more by God's grace. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Reformation_faith_works.html

86 posted on 01/28/2020 5:14:52 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
— everyone makes his own choices.

I think he just described a great number of Roman Catholics here on Free Republic.

Some accept and obey their pope, accept and obey certain dogmas they agree with or reject those they don't.

Others have started a modern day Reformation of a sorts....though they just don't realize it.

90 posted on 01/28/2020 5:30:12 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Naw.

Luther would likely just chuckle and say, “Told you so. Be glad you’re not being burned at the stake like the Pope did in my day.”

Except, you know, in German.


99 posted on 01/28/2020 9:47:47 PM PST by Luircin
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