Cardinal Tells Catholics Who Protest Pope to Become Protestants

Church Militant ^ | January 27, 2020 | Jules Gomes

[ealgeone]

It's almost the Epidemides Paradox:If the pope himself is a Protestant, what do you call those who protest against him?

I don't know but I bet Luther and the other Reformers would be amazed at the level of "protesting" among Roman Catholics against their pope.

IF this were back in the day a number of RC posters on FR would be in serious trouble.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I have a deep, abiding respect and affection for the Orthodox. I was in effect an Orthodox catechumen for 10 years, while being simultaneously a Catholic --- and I treasure what I lived and learned.

However, the Orthodox have this historic national-church problem which seems to render them especially vulnerable to being Licensed Liturgists for whatever regime is in power ("What is your position on church-state relations, Your Grace?" "Prone."); and they seem to have surrendered on big sexual issues a long, long time ago --- divorce and remarriage, contraception --- and are consequently in a weakened position to face the Orthodox and Gay movement, whose philosophical and sociological force is rooted in divorce/remarriage and contraception.

I feel no satisfaction in pointing out these weaknesses. We are all in dangerous times.

[pax_et_bonum]

Perfect response.

These guys infiltrate our Church, try to change what has been taught for thousands of years, and then tell us to leave if we don’t like it.

I don’t think so.

[Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey]

This Roman Catholic Knight states:

Why become Protestant when The Mass of Paul VI alone has done such a fine job of this task in the past 50+ years ?!?!

[kosciusko51]

The PCUSA as an organization is apostate to the Christian faith. Also, it is not episcopal in its governance. Finally, from his standpoint, why should he leave? After all, as one of his predecessors said, “I am the church! I am the tradition!”

[faithhopecharity]

Excellent comment!

[Mrs. Don-o]

There’s some truth in that. I also bet Luther and the other Reformers would be amazed and gratified at the level of “protestantizing” by the pope, against Roman Catholics.

[GreyFriar]

Those who protest the Protestants are historically, Catholics, other Protestants, and Moslems, who hate everyone that is not Moslem.

And I never thought I’d hear a cardinal encouraging the growth of Protestantism.

[crz]

Is there a Holy Catholic Church yet?

[ADSUM]

It is this strange story that explains why Christianity has done something different than just survive. It has itself returned to life many times after having been apparently defeated. It has, as Chesterton says, “died many times and risen again; for it had a God who knew the way out of the grave.”

[ADSUM]

And were could I go to be just Catholic?

We still have the Mass and the Sacraments.

God will prevail as He always does. Faithful Catholics will endure till the end.

We remember that Jesus established His Church for sinners and we pray for all members of the Body of Christ.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Thank you for the link you gave for that very good article on Pio Nono.

Taken as a whole, it shows why his rather extreme expression of "I am the church, I am the tradition!" amounted neither to Church doctrine nor to Church discipline, but rather was a private cry of exasperation against people who in effect were poised to give the authority of the Church over to the State.

Which is just what --- horrifyingly --- the Peronist Pope has done in China, in arguably the worst (some would say, criminal) move of his pontificate.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well said, ADSUM. I agree 100%

[RatRipper]

How about the pope becomes Catholic?

Bingo!

[Fedora]

Perugia Cardinal Gualtiero Bassetti, the president of the Italian bishops and an uncritical follower of Pope Francis, used a talk about Amoris Laetitia at the pro-gay World Meeting of Families (August 24) to promote mortal sin. Bassetti came up with the idea to distinguish between "good mortal sin" which he called "irregularity", and "bad mortal sin" saying that "not every irregularity is a mortal sin”. According to CruxNow.com, Bassetti went on claiming that what he called "irregularity" did apparently "not exist in the past” as if fornication was something new. Bassetti denied that “every disorderly act” against chastity is a mortal sin using the argument that “if we consider everything to be a mortal sin, then we exclude any form of integration.” The question arises what kind of "integration" besides confession Bassetti has in mind.: Cardinal Makes False Distinctions to Justify Mortal Sin (08/25/2018)

[Petrosius]

The Reformation started with Luther protesting against abuses being sanctioned or perpetrated by the pope at the time. Principally, indulgences.

The abuse concerning the sale of indulgences was by Johann Tetzel, not the pope. In any case, if Luther had just opposed abuse, he would probably be hailed as a saint today, just as many saints who did so. No, his main objections were with long established Church teachings, and not just abuse by the pope.

[kosciusko51]

… but rather was a private cry of exasperation against people who in effect were poised to give the authority of the Church over to the State.

And how would it be different than giving his authority over to the lay Catholic? Because if he abdicates due to the lay Catholic protests, he is doing just that.

[rintintin]

“The abuse concerning the sale of indulgences was by Johann Tetzel, not the pope. “

That’s like saying you didn’t buy an HP computer, you bought from an HP salesman.

[higgmeister]

well, yeah