Child molester’s wife sues Mormon church for $9.5 million, says husband is in prison because clergy reported his confession

OregonLive ^ | January 08, 2020 | Aimee Green

[AppyPappy]

You just slapped the Copy and Paste tarbaby, my FRiend. Prepare to be boarded

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Teppe,

Do you have a temple recommend??

If so, what is your secret name?

Are you certain your husband will find you worthy to be resurrected?

[heartwood]

So, during church services, who gives the sermon? Performs marriages, baptizes, buries the dead?

Individual counseling and confession, is that the bishop?

[heartwood]

Oh, I am late to the party. Shooting started while I was out.

[metmom]

Sure.

“anti-___________ hatred”

The last resort of someone who does not have a cogent defense or argument.

It’s telling that you defaulted to it so early in the thread.

[fproy2222]

Right here we have one of the reasons the left will always win. Conservatives tear other conservatives down because they do not conserve the right way. Liberals allow other liberals to do any thing they want. Conservatives do not have rnough left over to doba good job of blocking the left.

The religion form here at FR is a good example. Tear down each others church instead of getting togeather to fight liberalism.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“ Tear down each others church instead of getting togeather to fight liberalism.”

People can discuss multiple topics at once.

[cloudmountain]

I didn't know that the Mormons have a "clergy" with rights of confession.

I guess that they are SUCH a minority group that no one bothers with them. The Catholic Church is SUCH a larger target.

[mdmathis6]

John Chapter 1 says in the Beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the Word was God.

Verse 14 of the chapter says “and the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us?”

Now you be specific....which of the two questions you asked squares with the verses I just cited? And what is the “true work that God would have us do”? That is of course, relying on the Bible!

[Elsie]

Well!

You seem to have survived the holidays; too!

[Elsie]

As LDS, we call that the Telestial Kingdom (1st Cor 15:40)

40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

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Uh; did you misspell something?

[Elsie]

  HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):

• Telestial - where unbelievers go
• Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.
• Celestial - for Mormons who have kept ALL of the laws and ordinances of their church. What will the celestial heaven (kingdom) supposedly be like for a good Mormon? He will be a god, he will rule over a planet with his wives and spirit children.

[Elsie]

The rest of us will be doing God’s more important work.

Oh?

Do tell me more!

[Elsie]

They’ll claim piling on: 15 yard penalty

[olesigh]

anyone know the merman teaching on this?

[Elsie]

Please let me know which Church you belong to .... so that I can scour 140 year old statements that a member of your church made so that I can claim that I know more about your beliefs than you do.

Speaking of statements: do you fully agree with the following ones made by Mormon leadership??

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Green indicates updated linklinks: October 2019

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Orson Pratt proclaimed:

"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer).  

Page 273 found HERE LINK

More confusion:  LINK

 

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Questions put to Joseph Smith:

"'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119). 

Found in section 3 --> http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/T3.html  (search for 119)

 

 

"for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12).

Found here --->  LINK

 

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

Found in section 5 --> http://www.boap.org/LDS/Joseph-Smith/Teachings/T3.html  (search for 270)

 

 

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Brigham Young stated this repeatedly:

"When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses Section 5 page 73);

"The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses  Section  8 page 171);

"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses Section  8 page 199);

"Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses Section 10  page 230).

"And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses Section  6 page 24);

 

 

 

 

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Orson Pratt also said:

"This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , Section 18, page 44);

"But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , Section 18 page 172).

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President John Taylor stated:

"Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , Section 6 page 167);

"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , Section 10 page 127).

 

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James Talmage said:

"A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

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President Joseph Fielding Smith said:

"Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266).

"For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

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More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear:

"Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265);

"a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.123);

"virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.250);

"Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.290).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said:

"After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).  <-- can't find an onlink link, but there ARE a lot of hard copy books for sale tha tinclude this quote.

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated:

"the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , Section 2, page 196).

[Elsie]

You just slapped the Copy and Paste tarbaby, my FRiend. Prepare to be boarded

Now wait just a ding-danged MINUTE here Buster!!!

[Elsie]

Do you have a temple recommend??

Mormons withOUT one when they croak are gonna spend ETERNITY with ELSIE!!!

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Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.

[Larry Lucido]

This guy thinks he's Ethel Merman.

[Elsie]

Tear down each others church instead of getting togeather to fight liberalism.Then you must SURELY disagree with the statements of #56; Right??