Posted on 11/14/2019 5:34:01 PM PST by marshmallow
St. Petersburg, November 14, Interfax - Specialists from Russia will participate in the restoration of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, the Russian president's envoy for international cultural cooperation Mikhail Shvydkoy said, adding that a final decision on this issue will be made in January.
"We will make a final decision in January because we are now awaiting an official request and an official invitation from France. I hope this invitation will arrive before the New Year. And in mid-January, we will meet with the special ambassador of France who is in charge of recruiting foreign specialists to work on this project," Shvydkoy told reporters on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg International Cultural Forum on Thursday.
A final decision will be adopted after such an invitation is received, he said.
"We need to understand what the French need. We have lots of specialists who work with stone and wood. I mean the specialists who know how such castle-type constructions can be restored," Shvydkoy said.
According to earlier media reports, specialists from Russia will be invited to France to help rebuild the Notre Dame Cathedral.
A serious fire devastated Notre Dame in Paris on April 15, starting from the scaffolding built above the roof as part of an earlier restoration project. The cathedral's spire and roof collapsed as a result.
The communist and the Christians have traded places in this bizarro world.
Collusion!!!
Yesterday it was China... can’t just ONE news outlet get a news story correct these days?
What idiocy— the russians have not duplicated all the support structures, pixel by pixel... as an American firm has done. Such that each individual roof and wall support structures can be 3D Manufactured (in some cases using carbon fiber reinforced concrete- light and super strong beams 100x stronger than the ancient wood that burned).
This is horse crap from Macron’s people— the commie underground so above ground in France.
Russians are NOT known for their construction expertise. Seriously— they just are NOT.
Concrete? So? next time the zipperheads will use dynamite! The excuse for that will be choice!
Russia has done a beautiful and amazing job restoring many of their cathedrals.
Carbon fiber concrete? That’s not restoration.
Permanent repair for the next 500 years. Restoration of antiquated construction that was clearly vulnerable is not the goal of the “owners”— which btw is Not the Catholic Church.
An amazing fact.
Japanese workers cleaned the Vatican then began charging tourists to tour it. The Vatican didn’t prevent the Japanese actions. If you go to the Vatican, be prepared to ante up some dinero.
Russia has a lot of problems and it is a mafia state but to claim that Russians have no construction expertise is ludicrous. Russia is filled with many ancient structures that Russians have built and maintained for centuries. Out in the hinterlands of Siberia there are whole villages still being built from wood they cut down themselves. You won't find that expertise in woodworking in France.
Also the point is to retire Notre Dame to its original state, not make it a fucking Disney facsimile. And your idea of using carbon fiber reinforced concrete as the best solution is doubtful. I have seen a lot of rebar concrete fragment as the iron rebar rusts and swells and fractures the concrete and I doubt that carbon fiber would last over a thousand years like the original building material.
Well— could give you a rather detailed explanation of why “restoration” is not possible... at all, largely due to there being no— none anywhere, wood of the character or sizes of the roof frames (and the spire as well) which dendrologists determined were harvested in the 8th or 9th century (some 300 years before the wood was used in the construction in 1160 and reused in 1220. So, there’s that, and a lot else (in re: limestone masonry, fire water damage). The CAD reconstruction replicating now absent medieval elements— seems the best hope.
Not talking about rebar concrete. Slow down and read.
Rather than post a lot of facts of which you are not aware—check your mail.
Ok- “wild” card. This ain’t the DOT in bama.
Some current info on the “difficulties”-— from byzantine French politics of Macron et al, and of course the ever present islamofascists who are destroying what remains of French culture and history (as they are trying here in every way, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, and our own intel penetrations and coups):
Yeah— right: “we are now awaiting an official request and an official invitation from France” What horse crap.
And... “knowledge about castle-type constructions...” heh— there not being ANY experts living and in practice in the United Kingdom in re: structures built there from this very era, stonemasons and such.
Like Canterbury Cathedral in Kent—built between 1070 and 1077. East end of which was enlarged beginning of the 12th century, and rebuilt in the Gothic style following a fire in 1174. Records of which are all stored in the British Museum. But... no— we need some russkie opportunists. See: Chernobyl’s textbook “construction” methods. Appalling.
Yeah-— I know.. the recent “successes” of crappy rebar construction techniques.
The info on carbo-crete... carbon fiber reinforced prestressed concrete is quite impressive 100x or more flexsion and tensile strength than any other concrete slabe or post.
Check the link i posted to carbocrete— and there is lot’s more on the net of course. Imagine- instead of the “hardyboard” on sidings or structural elements-— that carbon fiber concrete slabs used. Last for centuries— many more than the Cathedral’s timbers, and... they cannot burn.
I don’t think the materials you are talking about fit historical restoration. As for the Russians and construction expertise, especially in timber construction google Transfiguration Church to start with. 150 ft high and standing strong since 1714. Built in place of identical structure burned by the lightning and standing for centuries before. Not a single nail was used to erect it. There is a national park near Archangelsk in Russia with a collection of ancient timber buildings moved there from all around Russian northwest. If you know a thing about carpeting the sophistication of these structures would amaze you especially in light of how old they are.
Study up on the 1200 year old beams that burned— the size of them in what is called “The Forest” arrayed in amazing force diagram supports of the 750 tons of lead roofing that collapsed from the complete burn through of the timbers (and the similarly clad wooden spire).
There is simply no wood of this size and density to “restore” the beams. Not any more and not in the hardwoods. Maybe some firm could make giant ply-timbers to duplicate and thus give “natural” like restoration. Who knows. There are marvelous online photos (architectural ones) of all of the roof braces— and they are post and peg construction similar to the construction of the log homes having lived in Aspen and elsewhere. So do have understanding of what you describe in Russia. The dendrologists of the archival historians of the Cathedral id’d the wood of the support beams as “harvested in 8th or 9th Century” and stored/not used until 1160, having grown for 300 years before harvest in the first place. Am following all this through my architect friends.
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