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To: MHGinTN
The Church interprets the Bible, NOT you.
So sorry.
67 posted on 10/28/2019 11:19:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
The Word of God 'interprets' itself. The Bible is its own best commentary. I am a part of the church, the One True Ekklesia of believers since Pentecost. You conflate the word church mixing meanings to cofuse the Truth which The word of God declares.

I have sent to you an freepmail, but it is clear it should be made public following your dodge.

68 posted on 10/28/2019 11:28:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To cloudmountain | 10/28/2019 11:25:35 AM PDT sent
Until the Day of Pentecost preaching by Peter and the Holy Spirit coming into the spirit of believers there, all you read of regarding Jesus is part of the Old Testament agenda. Until the stoning of Stephen, the Kingdom Age was possible, but with the rejection of The Messiah finalized in the leaders of the Jews rejecting the reality of Messiah STANDING at the throne of God when Stephen was given sight into the Throne Room of The Almighty.

The commandments from God to the Jewish peoples were ALL in force on the night before Jesus went to the cross. IF Jesus had fed ANY blood to those Jewish men during the Passover meal and sanctification He would violate the commands of God and be unfit for the sacrifice on the Cross. Jesus Himself calls the contents of the cup wine, and said to them that He would not drink it again until He drinks it with them in the Kingdom. JESUS as God with us would never contradict His nature of righteousness.


69 posted on 10/28/2019 11:31:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: cloudmountain

You state...”The Church interprets the Bible”....

No it does not...As Christians the indwelling Spirit this His work...and is the same Spirit of Truth who was promised by Jesus to teach His disciples all things, bring to their remembrance all that he had said, guide them into all truth, and declare the things to come (John 14:26; 16:13).

So believers are presumed to be taught the truth by Him and therefore know the truth, understand it well enough to believe it, and understand the significance of it so that they can follow it.

Additionally as a person grows and is sanctified by the Spirit, as He uses the word, the Spirit guides him to understand and apply truth... While the believer is not promised infallible interpretive abilities, the Spirit does work in his life to have the capacity for the proper presuppositions needed to rightly interpret, embrace, understand, and apply Scripture.


71 posted on 10/28/2019 11:52:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: cloudmountain
Rev20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and Him who is sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven did flee away, and place was not found for them; 12 and I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and scrolls were opened, and another scroll was opened, which is that of the life, and the dead were judged out of the things written in the scrolls — according to their works; 13 and the sea did give up those dead in it, and the death and the hades did give up the dead in them, and they were judged, each one according to their works; 14 and the death and the hades were cast to the lake of the fire — this [is] the second death; 15 and if any one was not found written in the scroll of the life, he was cast to the lake of the fire.

From the previous passages we know the lake of fire is an eternal torment those cast into it are conscious of. Here in Rev 20:11-15 we see that those not written in the Lambs Book of Life are cast into this eternal torment. THIS IS WHY the Gospel of God's Grace is so Great a Gift, for it removes the stain and power of sin and gives to each believer the gift of eternal life never to be cast into the lake of fire.

72 posted on 10/28/2019 12:21:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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