Posted on 10/19/2019 6:55:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
In 1968, Jane Porter, a British Catholic, was living as an undergraduate student in Brazil but after contracting an illness, she fell victim to a false healing carried out by an indigenous, pagan religion in a Catholic setting. The effects, she says, led to far greater suffering lasting for decades.
In this interview with the Register, Porter recounts her traumatic experience and expresses her concern that the Amazon Synods working document and therefore the synod itself risks introducing into Catholic life a practice similar to the one she experienced in Brazil.
The synod should be trying to evangelize these peoples in the saving power of Christ, Porter says, rather than viewing aboriginal peoples as having already received divine revelation and whose spirituality should be a source of riches for the Christian experience that should be formed into a catechism.
[Gigantic snip]
"I would be against tailoring Catholic ministries to the ancestral customs of the aboriginal peoples ...and totally against permitting shamanic rituals ...
"I would be against any model such as tribal collectivism, which deprives each individual of his or her personality and freedom as given by God. After a lifetime of being spiritually bound due to the effects of well-meaning but indigenous false healing, my recent true healing by the salvific action of Christs cross through the intercession of Mary, Mother of God, has enabled me to see in hindsight how these occult/pagan practices impeded my relationship with God...
"This makes me particularly worried that the Catholic Church may introduce, by default, influences which could reduce the faith of its members, or even destroy it."
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
Antonio Vivarini (14401480), Saint Peter Martyr Exorcizing a Woman Possessed by a Devil
Excerpting this article forced me to omit almost the entire gripping story of how this woman suffer for decades as a result of a well-intended "healing" by a syncrenistic Brazilian cult--- a cult resembing in some ways the tribals now being spotlighted by the Amazonian Synod.
Please read the whole thing at the original.
Truly terrifying to think this pagan perversion could be intentionally insinuated into the whole Church!
O Lord, defeat these agents of the Evil One!
Interesting. Would you put practices like yoga in the same category?
The first --- I would say --- is no more pagan than calisthenics or other gymnastic exercises.
In contrast, the latter is communing with undefined spiritual entities, which is forbidden by the First Commandment.
Professor Edwin Barnhart from the Maya Exploration Center has a fascinating theory about South American Monotheism (or something to that effect) involving “The Fanged Deity” or “The Decapitator God.” His lectures on Mesoamerican, South American, and North American ancient civilizations are quite compelling.
“Mama’s Books of Dark Magic,” as the Offspring refer to my journals, are full of notes on his lectures. I hope they will fascinating some future graduate student when I leave them to a university in my will.
In summary, things are super weird in the Amazon Basin. There are no-go areas of Ecuador and Brazil about which we literally know nothing, which is super amazing in these times. We should be humbled when we consider what we don’t know.
You have your basic breathing and stretching, which is, like, human biology, and then you have your weird stuff.
Paganism of any sort is dangerous to bring into any Church. May God protect the sincere Christians caught up in this and punish the instigators accordingly.
She got treated through Amazon. Prime membership or did she have to pay for the shipping for the treatment?
Wow!!
Ping
I always thought it was noteworthy that when Christ walked on this planet he spent his time casting out demons, and there were numerous examples of demon possession. Today we pump people full of pharmaceuticals and tell them to go see their psychiatrist while the confession lines have disappeared.
There may be something more sinister to Amazon than we realize. Jeff Bezos doesnt give me the best feeling.
The incorporation of pagan rituals is no different than idol worship throughout the Old Testament. Demon worship. Which got me to thinking about why there are so many “new” illnesses.
Got a Kindle book by Marybeth Wuenschel titled, “Your Thoughts Are Killing You” and know that we are at war. Lots of good info if you want to find it, especially about spiritual war.
I wouldn’t add or subtract from the Bible. Period.
I have read the entire article but don’t know if I believe that the miraculous healing of the young lady led to lifelong suffering. We don’t know who or what caused her seemingly supranatural healing. It did, as told, occur coincident with a decidedly non-Christian ceremony but then God works in mysterious ways. Many people endure near-lifelong suffering without any exposure to pagan ceremonies or summoning of demons or spirits. I myself have suffered from something similar to her original ailment since the mid-eighties and had to quit working in 1999. I believe you too have suffered with some non-minor and chronic medical ailments as well. In both cases this is without known exposure to exotic pagan or shamanistic practices. But at the same time I am adamantly opposed to the pagan outreach currently being conducted by wayward elements of the Vatican II-facilitated New Catholic Church (VIINCC).
My ailments have basically been unchanged during periods when I was/was not receiving the Sacrament of Confession. But then, pharmaceuticals haven’t done much either. However, I can offer up the suffering for souls in Purgatory in either case and I do.
Yoga is Hinduism and cannot be separated from the spiritual aspect.
The yoga poses are prayer positions for the different deities and indicate to the spiritual realm an openness and receptivity to the demons they are associated with.
Christians SHOULD NOT be practicing yoga.
That said, there’s a book that this article reminded me of called *The Beautiful Side of Evil* by Johannah Michaelson.
She grew up in a Central American setting and learned this kind of faith healing from one of their healers.
They did it in the name of God and even Jesus, but in spite of Jesus window dressing of it, it’s demonic to the core.
The book is a fascinating read of how she came to see the truth of what she was involved in and how she came to Christ and got delivered from it all.
+100
Yah okay.
What she presents is a reasonable inference, but not proof.
However, I would judge that any contact with wayward spirits is going to have a bad effect. If it was that bad effect, we do not know. But there is rarely "proof positive" for supernatural events.
I certainly agree that the syncretism on display at the "Guess Who? Pachamama?" ceremony should be utterly rejected --- and the site should probably be exorcised.
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Yoga is incompatible with Catholicism
https://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/2016/05/yoga-is-incompatible-with-catholicism.html
Thank you for posting this powerful account.
The Amazonian shamaness essentially got her pagan spirits to “heal” the lady in trade for giving them access to her body and soul. Thus she had this pagan/demonic spirit attached to her body, without her knowledge. Fortunately it never overcame her Catholic/Christian belief and her drive in seeking relief through the Church apparently limited the demon’s power over her.
Thank God for the priest to whom she was introduced who performed the detachment/exorcism.
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