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New cardinal appointed by Pope Francis open to discussing female ‘ordination’
LifeSite News ^ | October 11, 2019 | Maike HIckson

Posted on 10/13/2019 12:49:20 PM PDT by ebb tide

New cardinal appointed by Pope Francis open to discussing female ‘ordination’

October 11, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – Cardinal Michael Czerny and Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, both of whom were just made a cardinal by Pope Francis, have given signs that they would be open to debate either the question of female ordination or the married priesthood.

Cardinal Hollerich, a Jesuit from Luxemburg, showed openness toward the idea of ordaining married men to the priesthood. He told journalists at the beginning of October that when there are entire regions in the Amazon which cannot celebrate the Holy Eucharist, then this poses a great problem. “When here the 'viri probati' [morally proven married men] are a solution, why not?” he said, according to the German bishops' news website Katholisch.de.

He also referred to married priests in Catholic Eastern rites and also to married priests who were formerly members of the Anglican Church. He claimed that this question does not touch upon the theology of the priesthood. 

Hollerich went on to stress the positive aspects of the experiences of a married man. “I love my celibacy, I adhere to it, but I see that the married deacons can preach in a different manner than I, and I consider this to be in itself a great addition.”

Pope Francis has personally invited Hollerich to participate at the Amazon Synod that is currently taking place in Rome.

Hollerich is the President of COMECE (Commission of the Bishops' Conferences of the European Union), which has been involved in different activities of the organizers of the Amazon Synod, the Red-Amazonian Ecclesial Network (REPAM). 

The Jesuit Michael Czerny – who had been just a priest and had to quickly be made a bishop before becoming a cardinal last Saturday – is Canadian and now the fourth Canadian cardinal. He himself, according to a CBC News report, is inspired by Liberation Theology and has worked for many years in Central America. CBC News states: “As founder of the Jesuit Centre for Social Faith and Justice in Toronto in 1979, Czerny was influenced by Liberation Theology, leading a wide network of Canadian church groups and social activists in promoting justice for the poor and marginalized and refugees during the revolutions in Central America.”

Czerny has now shown some openness to discuss the matter of female ordination. CBC News reports his words concerning this question: “When asked whether he supports female ordination, Czerny at first bristled at the question. Later, he said he would not be comfortable articulating the goal now, but is open to 'getting the listening started. [The question] shouldn't be off the table.'”

Pope Francis had chosen Czerny to be a co-secretary of the pre-synodal council that prepared the Amazon Synod. He is also to be involved in the writing of the final report of the Amazon Synod.

Czerny also participated at a June 2019 secret meeting with Cardinals Lorenzo Baldisseri and Walter Kasper, who, together with other experts, prepared the Amazon Synod. This meeting's final report calls for married priests and female deacons. 

So far, the discussions at the Amazon Synod indeed show an openness toward the female diaconate and the ordination of married men to the priesthood. Bishop Erwin Kräutler – who is said to have been one of the key authors of the synod's working document – just repeated in interviews what he has written already in 2016, namely, that he is in favor of female priests.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: franciscardinals; francischism; heritcs; jesuits; romancatholic; womynpriests
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Bishop Erwin Kräutler – who is said to have been one of the key authors of the synod's working document – just repeated in interviews what he has written already in 2016, namely, that he is in favor of female priests.
1 posted on 10/13/2019 12:49:20 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Pope Heretic!!


2 posted on 10/13/2019 12:50:37 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; ...

Ping


3 posted on 10/13/2019 12:51:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Seems that most female clergy are lesbians.

And have poor commitment to the Gospel.


4 posted on 10/13/2019 12:57:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

So men can’t get married so they must burn in their sin and desire; but women are A-OK?


5 posted on 10/13/2019 1:16:55 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: DarthVader; BenLurkin

Women’s ordination is impossible. These Sin-Nod people aren’t even Catholic.


6 posted on 10/13/2019 1:22:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All -- how can I love Thee as I ought?)
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To: ebb tide

Whoa!
It was presented as an article of faith that the clergy must be male. What happened? Not even the pope has the authority to change that.


7 posted on 10/13/2019 1:29:51 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: I want the USA back

What happened is as mrs don-o says. These guys are not Catholic


8 posted on 10/13/2019 1:33:46 PM PDT by stanne
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To: ebb tide

“...open to female ordination...”

I think now I understand how Reagan felt.


9 posted on 10/13/2019 1:46:04 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: DarthVader
Some years ago this same question came up. The BBC decided to interview the wives of Anglican clerics. They interviewed about six and the narrator said that their comments formed the gist of most vicar's wives.
They said that there simply are NOT enough hours in the day for a vicar to be
a good shepherd to his flock.
a good husband and
a good father.

They were ALL for a celibate clergy.

10 posted on 10/13/2019 1:47:52 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: DarthVader
If women get ordained you will have "women's issues" front and center--bias, pregnancy, teenager troubles...cuz you KNOW that they WILL want the right to marry and have children.
I can hear it already.
11 posted on 10/13/2019 1:49:42 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
If women get ordained you will have "women's issues" front and center--bias, pregnancy, teenager troubles...cuz you KNOW that they WILL want the right to marry and have children.

And abort them if it would interfere with her “spiritual development”.

12 posted on 10/13/2019 1:59:16 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: ebb tide

I never wanted to be a priest. Never wanted to be a None either, though they educated me very well.

Veto!
(The Girl)


13 posted on 10/13/2019 2:25:09 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: ebb tide

So Germans, Jesuits and gays are the new church. Make a mess.


14 posted on 10/13/2019 2:31:27 PM PDT by Marchmain (safe, legal and wrong)
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To: DarthVader

Doing something because it is trendy and popular is a great way to turn a church which claims a divine line of authority into just another church of men.


15 posted on 10/13/2019 2:40:00 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: ebb tide

Most Liberal Catholics love this “Pope”. This will increase his popularity among them, IMO.


16 posted on 10/13/2019 3:11:45 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: I want the USA back

Amen and SECOND IT.


17 posted on 10/13/2019 3:59:51 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: All

Remember,there is married permanent deacons, and deacons are in the group of holy orders.


18 posted on 10/13/2019 4:05:12 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
The diaconate was restored as a permanent ministry by Pope Paul VI, on June 18, 1967, upon the recommendation of the Fathers of the Second Vatican Council.
19 posted on 10/13/2019 4:11:41 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Biggirl
"Then, in 1972, Paul VI, following the direction of Vatican II, issued Ministeria quaedam, which realigned these things for the Latin Rite. Tonsure was suppressed, and now a person becomes a cleric through SACRAMENTAL ORDINATION AS A DEACON; this was a change to a pattern of more than 1000 years standing! The Pope also suppressed the minor orders altogether, converting two of them into "lay" ministries no longer requiring ordination; he also suppressed the subdiaconate, shifting the promise of celibacy to the diaconate.
20 posted on 10/13/2019 4:27:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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